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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-08-2012, 11:06 AM Thread Starter
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Hey guys on my 81 shovelhead i have an elec. starter and kick start when i try to use the elec. starter the starter wines but dose not turn the motor what do i need to replace the starter cylinoid or is there something else Thanks for any help
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-08-2012, 11:30 AM
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also check the starter solinoid , the contact ring (brass washer) for burns. and the contact bolts usually made of brass. you can clean them up on a wire brush.
you need to replace the starter drive gear unit (gear with teeth that engages to the starter ring.)
because it has probable rounded the edges off somewhat.
go to ronnies microfiche .com type in tour bike & look uo the startes & solinoid. he doesn't give p/n's but gives you a good look at what part your working on.
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If the starter motor is spinning, but the engine is not, check the starter drive gear unit.

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Bendix drive gear.
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no , he said it whines. the drive prob engages but the motor just TRRRRRYYYYY to turn over and whines. The motor brushes, or stator bars burnt. thats my guess.

My buddy who rides a Rocket III rides my new dyna and says, 'its alright, but it's still just a Harley.'
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no , he said it whines. the drive prob engages but the motor just TRRRRRYYYYY to turn over and whines. The motor brushes, or stator bars burnt. thats my guess.

Right, he said it whines...

If the starter motor is whining, then it its spinning.

If it is spinning, but not turning the engine over, the starter drive unit is bad.
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Yea the starter is turning its just not coming out and catching the fly wheel


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Thats the bitch of the internet. Does it whine like i am thimking, or does it whirrrrr and free spin like you say. Iys hard to tell on the web.

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Yea the starter is turning its just not coming out and catching the fly wheel

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The starter engages the ring gear on the clutch, don`t confuse it with the flywheel...

Have you actually seen the pinion gear not coming out?

The reason I ask, is that in order for the starter to be energized, the solenoid plunger must be extended.

When you push the start button, the start relay is energized, sending power to the coil inside the solenoid, which moves the plunger. At one end of the plunger is the electrical contact that completes the circuit to the starter motor, the other end is at the starter bendix mechanism.

So if the starter motor gets current and spins, it means the plunger has moved, which also means the pinion gear must be extended, unless there is a problem with the mechanical parts in the primary.

If the pinion gear extends, the starter spins, but the engine does not turn over, the starter drive unit is shot (the starter drive unit is part that the small gear is mounted onto).

Have you inspected the hardware inside the primary case to be sure everything is ok?

Caution, don`t put your hands on anything in the primary while the battery is connected. If you give the pinion gear a pull with your hands, the starter will energize.
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Yes the starter sounds normal but it seems like its not connecting with anything I have not opened up the primary yet because I wasn't sure where to start everything seems to be fine but the part of the motor starting over no grinding or anything thanks for your guys help I know I am making it harder then it needs to be


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