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04-27-2009, 08:31 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orlando
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S&S Panhead kickstart problem
Hi
I have just built a bobber, it has:
S&S p-series panhead, with S&S superstock ignition 93 cu in
8.2:1 compression ratio.
Primary belt 1.5 inch
Kick only
Harley 4 speed transmission
S&S super E carb
I cant start it.
I have checked the carb settings
The timing is good
A few times I have managed to start it, but after about 200 kicks.
Then I rode it 16 miles & the oil temp was 250 degrees (with 20-50 syn oil)
it runs good though
My questions:
Is this engine too big for kickstarting?
Should I send it back to S&S?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanx in advance
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04-27-2009, 09:08 PM
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CHOPPA RIDN MADNESS
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: In a van down by the river
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Nope send it to me..lol that engine will kick fine you got to know your sequence of starting every kicker I had always had a different way of firing.My Rev Tech is a hard kicker Igot the hot sequence down now I got to get the cold one goin .I have a Tech cycle 1 1/2" belt primary with The Indian Larry electric start conversion so I cheated a little once I get the sequence down its comin off.My old Pan 53FL kicked right up 2 primes and 1 fire .Id run 50w or 60w in that motor Dino oil but thats me I run 60w dino in my Rev tech Pandimonium Engine probley have 175 miles on it now. 
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04-28-2009, 05:13 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cleveland
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Would it fire if you shot some ether in the carb?
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04-28-2009, 06:06 PM
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Rapidus Maximus
Join Date: Sep 2008
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either is waaaay to hard on engines, i would never use that stuff, if it won't fire on gas somethin is wrong. IMO.
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04-29-2009, 10:56 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cleveland
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I'd agree if it was used all the time. But as a troubleshooting tool...
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04-29-2009, 03:42 PM
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Official Ass Tweaker
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Location: Luxembourg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badassbrutus
Nope send it to me..
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No - don't send it to that bum - send it to me 
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Generally speaking, you don't die on motorcycles.
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Yes, I have had two bottles of wine. What the fukk is your problem
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04-29-2009, 03:47 PM
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Official Ass Tweaker
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Luxembourg
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200 kicks is more than I could do on my best day. If it takes more than a half dozen then look for another problem.
My bet is you're lean on the bottom end.
Your temp is too high.
Do a plug chop if you can get it running.
What are your carb settings ? Jets and such.
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Hol' My Beer, Bubba, An' Watch 'Is
1980 FLH80 Shrine (originally).
Generally speaking, you don't die on motorcycles.
You die a few yards away from what's left of them.
Yes, I have had two bottles of wine. What the fukk is your problem
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04-29-2009, 04:56 PM
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when did it start 4u
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Knoxvegas
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you really just gotta find that right sequence I am not sure if its the same on s&s but oul pan shov, if you dont do the combo right it wont start period.. I would mess with the plugs and see if its to rich or you could be flooding it, and make sure the gas is off after you kick it I have made that mistake a time or to, if it runs and runs well it must have somthing to do with carb or timming
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04-29-2009, 09:30 PM
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CHOPPA RIDN MADNESS
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Retard the timing ,make it easier to kick turn ur idel screw up 1/2 to 3/4 turns higher.3prime kicks with enrichener on the top of the compression stroke key on river dance on that bitch!!If she spits ur gettin closer kick her ass again she will go.
you should have a .30 plug gap.you live in orlando put 50w oil in it dino no synthetic i hate it,start with a .072 main in that S$S 1 1/2 turns out on the airmixture from lightly seated (do not crank down on that screw)only lightly seated.Itll go.
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Nothing better than downing beers and throwing lead.
Except riding my Sled.
"If you treat me good,Ill treat you better.
If you treat me bad Ill treat you Worse."
Lifes journay is not to arrive at the grave safely
in a well preserved body,but to skid in sideways,totaly worn out,shouting"Holy Shit what a fukin ride"...
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