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Old 01-27-2009, 01:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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20,000 mile service question

Is it basically required to get the service at 20k or would I not really need it as much as I think? I'm about to spend 500 bucks and I'm starting to question. Thanks
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Is that what the dealer wants to charge you?

Take a look in the owners manual. There is a chart torwards the back that states what needs to be checked and/or replaced at 20,000 miles.

Buy a factory repair manual for 60 bucks. Follow the directions. It'll be a lot cheaper, and it will give you peace of mind that it was actually done.
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's right. That way you can have cold one and tinker.
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Here is the typical 20,000 mile inspection service. As you can see anyone with some mechanical aptitude should be able to do it and save a lot of coin.

20,000 and 40,000 Mile Maintenance

- Change oil and filter, clean magnetic drain plug
- Change primary chain case fluid, clean magnetic drain plug
- Change transmission lubricant, clean magnetic drain plug
- Lubricate the following
--front brake lever, throttle & cables, speedometer cable
--clutch control cable and lever, jiffy stand
- Inspect air cleaner, service as needed
- Test battery voltage & charging system output
- Tighten battery connections, check electrolyte on wet cells
- Check lighting & horn for proper operation
- Check and adjust primary drive chain
- Check and adjust clutch and cable free play
- Inspect engine stabilizers and mounts
- Inspect fuel valve, lines and fittings for leaks
- Clean fuel screen on carbureted models
- Clean tappet screen on big twin evo models
- Replace spark plugs
- Check and re-torque critical fasteners
- Inspect tires, tread depth & adjust pressure
- Check wheels, tighten spokes if needed
- Inspect brake pads and discs for wear
- Check and adjust rear belt
- Check shock absorbers
- Inspect oil and brake lines and fittings for leaks
- Inspect brake fluid level and condition
- Check engine idle speed and adjust as necessary
- Check & adjust operation of throttle and enrichener
- Check ignition timing & vacuum hose on carbed evo big twin
- Replace fork oil
* Extra charge - grease and/or adjust steering head bearings
* Extra charge - repack wheel bearings (99 and earlier)
* Extra charge - repack swingarm bearings
- Road test

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Old 01-29-2009, 01:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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yeah, they want to charge a lot but the bike has been handed down and i don't know what has and hasn't been done. i don't have a lot of time or the equipment/experience working with bikes to do it decently by myself. i might regret, what's done is done...no more services after this one.
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Old 02-17-2009, 02:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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O1dwgj doing the service is no problem, follow the book. I have a 03 Deuce, and it has never had the dealer touch it since the first free check up. This way it gives you a better understanding of your ride. Take care. Deuce 03
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Old 02-17-2009, 02:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Here is the typical 20,000 mile inspection service. As you can see anyone with some mechanical aptitude should be able to do it and save a lot of coin.

20,000 and 40,000 Mile Maintenance

- Change oil and filter, clean magnetic drain plug
- Change primary chain case fluid, clean magnetic drain plug
- Change transmission lubricant, clean magnetic drain plug
- Lubricate the following
--front brake lever, throttle & cables, speedometer cable
--clutch control cable and lever, jiffy stand
- Inspect air cleaner, service as needed
- Test battery voltage & charging system output
- Tighten battery connections, check electrolyte on wet cells
- Check lighting & horn for proper operation
- Check and adjust primary drive chain
- Check and adjust clutch and cable free play
- Inspect engine stabilizers and mounts
- Inspect fuel valve, lines and fittings for leaks
- Clean fuel screen on carbureted models
- Clean tappet screen on big twin evo models
- Replace spark plugs
- Check and re-torque critical fasteners
- Inspect tires, tread depth & adjust pressure
- Check wheels, tighten spokes if needed
- Inspect brake pads and discs for wear
- Check and adjust rear belt
- Check shock absorbers
- Inspect oil and brake lines and fittings for leaks
- Inspect brake fluid level and condition
- Check engine idle speed and adjust as necessary
- Check & adjust operation of throttle and enrichener
- Check ignition timing & vacuum hose on carbed evo big twin
- Replace fork oil
* Extra charge - grease and/or adjust steering head bearings
* Extra charge - repack wheel bearings (99 and earlier)
* Extra charge - repack swingarm bearings
- Road test


I'm willing to bet a pay check that my local dealer will not perform all of these checks, and still charge $500 +. Unless you feel that your delaer can be trusted. Buy the service manual and learn to do it yourself if you think you can. I've heard too many friends get F***ked by their dealers. If you don't fell that you can do it, ask around for a good independent shop in your area, you may get a better job and better price. Good luck.:
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I understand your hesitancy about doing the all the work yourself, how about doing just the things you can do, and give them a specific list and no more, that should bring the bill down. just a thought
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I understand your hesitancy about doing the all the work yourself, how about doing just the things you can do, and give them a specific list and no more, that should bring the bill down. just a thought
Buying a manual, reading it and doing the service yourself is not only the most empowering thing you can do, but knowledge is power in this crappy world....

If you look at the list, you'll see a lot of the stuff is basic, mechanical stuff. Oil change, primary chain adjust, belt tighten, cable adjust, yadda, yadda, yadda........

Reading the manual will tell you how to do all of this, and explains it in the simplest terms. It's not the space shuttle....

I can appreciate if someone isn't mechaincally inclined, or if given a screwdriver, would screw up a football bat, but if you have half a brain, the money you'd spend on the service will pay for the "specialty" tools needed to do the service, and allow you to beat your chest and scream and grunt outloud throughout your neighborhood once the job is completed, followed by cooking raw meat and peeing on the neighbor's bushes.

Women included.........

Learning about your motorcycle allows you to be come one with the motorcycle.

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Old 02-17-2009, 05:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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When you've been wrenching all your life it's difficult to understand why someone else hesitates to do it. If they go at it slowly read the manual and know when to get help or have some one else finish what they consider to be the more difficult service, nothing gets broken and in the meantime maybe someone can teach them until their confidence is up.
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