Oil Cooler Issue

[Blackdog 15]

I have the premium HD oil cooler for my 05 softail. My issue is this...What I am trying to find out is if the offset adapter for the oil cooler that came with the cooler has a thermostat built into it or not...Usually a thermostat is a good idea but as I ride a lot in hooter temperatures, I want no thermostat so I can flow oil through the cooler as soon as the motor is running. Why let your oil heat up to 185 degrees before you think of cooling it ? I believe this will keep my maximum oil temp. at a lower temp when I'm on the road...With this in mind, I am planning to install a JAGG 10 core vertical cooler... Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated...

[XDixiecratX]

Hers a good Idea, go to the new to the community page and introduce yourself

[Blackdog 15]

Originally Posted by XDixiecratX

Hers a good Idea, go to the new to the community page and introduce yourself

Say what ???? Dixie,,,it's Blackdog....

[XDixiecratX]

Sorry bout that Blackdog, I was gunnin for somebody lol.

[XDixiecratX]

My 2 cents Blackdog is oil does its wonders at operating temps, warm oil flows better then cold, Id stick with the thormostate.

[Blackdog 15]

Originally Posted by XDixiecratX

Sorry bout that Blackdog, I was gunnin for somebody lol.

cool, let's get em in a crossfire ..!!! LOL...

[vlade]

When I talked to Marv at jagg he said,,,

Hi Andrew,

The 2300 or 2380 10-row low mount coolers are perfect. I recommend the 4600 but if you’d feel better with a built-in thermostat (not necessary) then go for it…it works fine and does exactly what I say it will do…and that is to “by-pass the oil cooler until bike is warmed up”. Never seen one get cool enough in any climate for the automatic actuator to back out of the by-pass hole until you shut the bike off and let it cool down…no matter how cold it is outside. Please also consider the 4600AR-A. You can read about it on the site at the accessories page or if you call to place an order I can fill you in on why I recommend this small item.

[Kainam]

Originally Posted by Blackdog 15

I have the premium HD oil cooler for my 05 softail. My issue is this...What I am trying to find out is if the offset adapter for the oil cooler that came with the cooler has a thermostat built into it or not...Usually a thermostat is a good idea but as I ride a lot in hooter temperatures, I want no thermostat so I can flow oil through the cooler as soon as the motor is running. Why let your oil heat up to 185 degrees before you think of cooling it ? I believe this will keep my maximum oil temp. at a lower temp when I'm on the road...With this in mind, I am planning to install a JAGG 10 core vertical cooler... Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated...

I have the same cooler on my bike. The thermostat is in that mounting adapter.

I like the thermostat not so much to bypass the cooler when ambient temps get cold, but rather to speed up the warming of the oil to operating temperatures on startup.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Blackdog 15

I have the premium HD oil cooler for my 05 softail. My issue is this...What I am trying to find out is if the offset adapter for the oil cooler that came with the cooler has a thermostat built into it or not...Usually a thermostat is a good idea but as I ride a lot in hooter temperatures, I want no thermostat so I can flow oil through the cooler as soon as the motor is running. Why let your oil heat up to 185 degrees before you think of cooling it ? I believe this will keep my maximum oil temp. at a lower temp when I'm on the road...With this in mind, I am planning to install a JAGG 10 core vertical cooler... Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated...

I'm no expert on oil, but I have read a few articles from knowledgeable people int he field. I have been told that oil that does not get hot enough can cause more problems than you might expect. The primary threat is corrosion when oil does not get warm enough to allow it to vaporize any water that it has accumulated.

Good synthetic oil can stand a lot of heat without breaking down and 215 degree oil should not be a threat to your engine. There are times when an oil cooler could be of value, especially with big twins. There are other ways to cool down your engine too. Our local independent shop can drop your oil temperature a lot by some mods to the intake/exhaust/ and ignition.

Maybe Dave could shed some light on this matter.

Pete

[tibadoe]

I would stick with the thermostate. You want the oil and engine to heat up to normal operation temps. Since the normal oil temp is 230* and the thermostate opens at 185* its has already started to cool before it hits the normal temp range. IMO.