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Old 10-04-2011, 10:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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compensator going out

I've heard a lot about compensators going out at about 20,000 mi. usually at a very inconvenient time, Anybody else know about this.
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Old 10-04-2011, 10:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've heard a lot about compensators going out at about 20,000 mi. usually at a very inconvenient time, Anybody else know about this.
My 2010 is in the shop as we speak. The compensator did not fail. It was however ready to fall off according to the tech at the dealer.
The bike was knocking and kicking back horribly during hot starts.
The dealer changed the starter and stator and then checked the compensator.
Going to see later on today how the repairs went.
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My 2010 is in the shop as we speak. The compensator did not fail. It was however ready to fall off according to the tech at the dealer.
The bike was knocking and kicking back horribly during hot starts.
The dealer changed the starter and stator and then checked the compensator.
Going to see later on today how the repairs went.
How does one change the stator without having the compensator in hand first?

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Old 10-04-2011, 11:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Some years have problems -
The 05 bagger comp. nut bottomed out before it reached the torque value...
and would then become loose... They added a washer as a fix...
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Some years have problems -
The 05 bagger comp. nut bottomed out before it reached the torque value...
and would then become loose... They added a washer as a fix...
Can you tell me about this? I've got my 2005 RK down for the winter for a bunch of upgrades. I thought I had noise from the cam chest , but so far everything in there seems OK, I haven't gotten to the inner cam bearings yet but the tensioners and bearings on the outside look fine. It just seems noisy to me, but when I listened to it with a mechanics stethoscope I couldn't tell where from. I'm going to look at the primary side next. If I should add a washer as you say, I'd like to do it while I'm in there.
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I just did this on an 05 FLHTCUI - Pull the comp. nut - Add washer ...
Clean everything, 2 drops of red loctite and reinstall and retorque ...
When mine came loose ... it made lots of bad noises, but didn't hurt anything...
Buy the washer cheap at a Harley parts supplier ... They should know what you need.
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Up to 2008, the compensator isn't a failure issue. Same one as the Evo days. It may come loose, but it's not going to fail like the newer ones.

It's only 2008 and newer bikes with the smaller, newer compensator that fails. Replacement with the SE compensator is recommended.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I hate to argue Dave63 -
but the 06 Dyna with it's machine screws in the comp. is junk and will fail...
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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YOUR Dyna is a different breed. He's asking about a 2005 RK, although he also owns a 2005 FXD.

The Dyna was the test base for all the other models. 2005 was still the old style compensator for all the models, and the FXD didn't have the auto adjuster until 2006, when everyone else got it in 2007. All other models didn't get the new compensating sprocket until 2008.

I agree in that the shim and retorque stops the lossening issue with the older style units.
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