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I am just one of them too good to be true guys...

Condition is a very subjective thing. It is definitely laid out in their favor.
Agreed.

I also note our newest member (OP) is also blasting his story on all the HD forums he can......

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For the record,..I never did do it. "Pay ya later" was never one of my approved methods of doing buisness...

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Dont do it. Apparently new condition is perfect. I just sent mne in with only 30 miles on the bike. Wiped them down to remove any rd grime. Packaged them up just as my Rineharts came to me. Plastic wrap and box. And they tell me they dont meet the criteria due to scratches? Wtf.

My question is... Why would you not have asked to speak with the person running that joint and then tell him you want pictures of the scratches sent back to your email proving it? Because the way it looks to me is, they are getting people to pay their own shipping to send them free pipes, then they tell you they aren't in the proper condition no matter how new they are, and then they sell them or recycle them anyway and make a profit.


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Here is a copy of the email I just sent them. Now we wait for a response.


--- TO: info@stockpipessuck.com

So let me get this straight... You WANT my stock pipes... but you aren't willing to pay the shipping for them to get them to you? And then if you say "at your sole discretion" that my pipes that came off my brand new bike with 10 miles on it, aren't in the right condition, you want ME to PAY SHIPPING back to my house???

You have lost your marbles and I feel very sorry for anyone that gets cheated by this scam because you are a bunch of crooks.



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Email server is down. I emailed american customs and they responded with what i included in my op



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Well i sent a follow up email back to american customs. Got a call from Eddie today. He said he talked to stockpipessuck.com manager and they reinspected the pipes and they are approved. So now i wait for my money. Well see and ill keep yall updated.



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Well i sent a follow up email back to american customs. Got a call from Eddie today. He said he talked to stockpipessuck.com manager and they reinspected the pipes and they are approved. So now i wait for my money. Well see and ill keep yall updated.



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Did something change with the pipes?

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Did something change with the pipes?
Yes, the guy who sent them didn't just lay down and roll over.

It is like many other non-brick and mortar services, deny any payout initially (step one) and most people will walk away and say, "oh well, lesson learned..." and the "scammer" comes out ahead. Few folks will actually keep fighting, but those that do, generally will get an agreement from the company for the payout (step two), they may take their time in sending the pay out because the individual may just be relieved that he got an agreement form the "scammer". If no pay out actually arrives, another percentage of those that fought will just give up and they still profit (step three). Fewer, still, will continue to fight and will finally get a payment out.

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Yes, the guy who sent them didn't just lay down and roll over.

It is like many other non-brick and mortar services, deny any payout initially (step one) and most people will walk away and say, "oh well, lesson learned..." and the "scammer" comes out ahead. Few folks will actually keep fighting, but those that do, generally will get an agreement from the company for the payout (step two), they may take their time in sending the pay out because the individual may just be relieved that he got an agreement form the "scammer". If no pay out actually arrives, another percentage of those that fought will just give up and they still profit (step three). Fewer, still, will continue to fight and will finally get a payment out.
I get it. (Imagine light above my head, fizzling, then getting brighter and brighter.)

It starts:

You pay to send your pipes at your expense (out $15-25 shipping)

They deny the purchase, BUT offer to hold your pipes for 30 days, free of charge, until you decide how you want them sent back, again, at your expense.

You are now having to decide to pay MORE to get your own pipes back due to return shipping, or just give them to them, because return shipping is going to be the same (presumably) as shipping to send, so now you;re out $30-50, and have nothing to show, but your own pipes you started with.

So.....

Theoretically, if you tried to get your pipes back after 30 days, the company says, "Well....we don't have them, because you never requested them back, and we DID HOLD THEM FOR 30 DAYS....FREE OF CHARGE....." Read: Legal disclaimer. Push the issue hard enough, they charge you a storage fee. Reasonable I'm sure, if the pipes still exist.

If not......BAM.... free pipes.

Company mods pipes and sells them.

BAM....Mo money.

Interesting....

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Here is a copy of the email I just sent them. Now we wait for a response.


--- TO: info@stockpipessuck.com

So let me get this straight... You WANT my stock pipes... but you aren't willing to pay the shipping for them to get them to you? And then if you say "at your sole discretion" that my pipes that came off my brand new bike with 10 miles on it, aren't in the right condition, you want ME to PAY SHIPPING back to my house???

You have lost your marbles and I feel very sorry for anyone that gets cheated by this scam because you are a bunch of crooks.



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Hope you are not holding your breath for a response. I think they may take offense to the truth, especially when put so straight forward.
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