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			<title>96 lowrider rake info</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:11:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have a 1996 stock lowrider and I want to put a wide glide front end on it. What would be the best length and rake to buy?</description>
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			<dc:creator>motmoo</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[S & S slip on mufflers? what are they like?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:35:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi just got some Slipon Tapered S&S Mufflers for my 09 Fatboy, seem nicely made just wondering about the Baffle, you can look straight through them...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi just got some Slipon Tapered S&amp;S Mufflers for my 09 Fatboy, seem nicely made just wondering about the Baffle, you can look straight through them although, there are some Raised areas inside the pipes sticking out around a third, but was expecting the sort of baffle i can unscrew? is this inner thing the Baffle? as heard you need some sort of Backpressure<br />
anyone run these and how loud are they?  S&amp;S told me they would be around 5db more than standard, is that much louder?<br />
there US made pipes.[ heard you can get European made ones which are more quiet]</div>

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			<title>slip ons</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:23:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[i have a 07 rkc with v&h true duels. if i install a set of hooker header slipons do i need to install a high flow air filter and/or a fuel management...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>i have a 07 rkc with v&amp;h true duels. if i install a set of hooker header slipons do i need to install a high flow air filter and/or a fuel management component ie, fuelpak or power commander? or will the 02sensors do the adjustments themselves?</div>

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			<title>true duals</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:17:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>when I purchased my 08 roadking classic I had rinehart slip-ons installed and now I would like to convert my exhaust to true duals. My question is...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>when I purchased my 08 roadking classic I had rinehart slip-ons installed and now I would like to convert my exhaust to true duals. My question is can I just purchase pipes to convert exhaust to true duals and use the rinehart slip-ons already on the bike? If so, about how much more will the pipes cost?</div>

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			<title>American Custom Slip-Ons</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:52:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm shopping around for new slip-ons for my '08 Road King Classic, and stumbled onto www.americancustom.com (http://www.americancustom.com/).  I'm...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm shopping around for new slip-ons for my '08 Road King Classic, and stumbled onto <a href="http://www.americancustom.com/" target="_blank">www.americancustom.com</a>.  I'm wondering if anyone here has purchased and installed their slip-ons, and what feedback they could give me.<br />
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Thanks!</div>

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			<title>Here is one for you</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:03:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I posted this in the Softail section but I guess I just have to bitch a little about it. Getting the 05 deluxe repaired and the Harley dealer has to...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I posted this in the Softail section but I guess I just have to bitch a little about it. Getting the 05 deluxe repaired and the Harley dealer has to replace the megaphone/muffler section of a pro-pipe HS. What the heck do they do but order a pro-pipe BP take the megaphone from the BP, leave the header pipes on from the HS and mate the BP megaphone to the HS. Guess what!!! the BP isn't designed to be used on the HS pipe and it is 3/8 to 1/2&quot; back from the weld on the HS header pipe. Ticked off at this point and tired dealing with these #$%)@*&amp;%#$* at the dealership. But by god if they had they ride in for repairs they wouldn't do this crap. I sent the V&amp;H folks and e-mail and of course their words were the BP isn't designed to mate with the HS, go figure???? Sick and tired of this dealership. Thanks for letting me vent in the herd.:mad::faint</div>

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			<title>Want a header...</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:32:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Image: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/saleen_n_around/Lobo/2into1.jpg 

Anyoe know of a commercially available setup like this or will I have...</description>
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Anyoe know of a commercially available setup like this or will I have to get someone to build a 2&gt;1 header like this?</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[My V&H quiet baffle is stuck]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:32:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I am looking for some suggestions on how to remove the quiet baffles from my V&H Big Shots.  I installed them several years ago and they need...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am looking for some suggestions on how to remove the quiet baffles from my V&amp;H Big Shots.  I installed them several years ago and they need repacking.  I removed the chrome shield and the set screw.  I tried pulling the baffle out, no luck.  I did some research and found a trick by putting a screw in the set screw hole from the inside giving you something to tug on.  No luck.  I even got a small C-clamp around the screw and the other end on the edge of the pipe attempting to &quot;pull&quot; the baffle out.  I bent the screw.  I tried WD-40, still stuck.  They shouldn't be stuck this bad, should they?  Anyone have any experience in this or ideas?  I am at a loss.</div>

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			<title>question about pipes i put on my 09 rocker c</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:36:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>i have a 09 rocker c  i bought a cheap set of chrome ground pounders that were universal for a soft tail.  it all fits right but there is no 02...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>i have a 09 rocker c  i bought a cheap set of chrome ground pounders that were universal for a soft tail.  it all fits right but there is no 02 sensor ports on the exhaust so i bought a pc 5 for it and it should be here today.  does anyone have any information  on a good tune or map to use for it i will aslo have on a screaming eagle air filter im sorta new to the harley sceen any help would be much aprecheated.  ohh yeah and is it normal for the pipes to change color if so is there a way to clean it or prevent it from discolor  i know from my 4 stroke dirtbikes it casue its running too hot but i did not know if there was a way <br />
thanks <br />
brian</div>

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			<title>80847-10 mufflers review</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:47:07 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>what do you think of the 2/2 fatshots 80847-10 mufflers harley has for use on an 09 ultra? I hear they make a different sound on 09 models as...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>what do you think of the 2/2 fatshots 80847-10 mufflers harley has for use on an 09 ultra? I hear they make a different sound on 09 models as compared to 10 model (because of cat) and that on the 09 they don't sound as good? All reviews welcomend.Or should i be looking at different muffs. want bike to flow good and still be relatively quiet.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[D&D Fat Cat 2-1 Initial impressions]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:05:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I put a new exhaust on my 2009 FXD Dyna Super Glide yesterday. After two hundred miles with the new pipes, this is my initial review. 

Removing the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I put a new exhaust on my 2009 FXD Dyna Super Glide yesterday. After two hundred miles with the new pipes, this is my initial review. <br />
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Removing the stock exhaust was straightforward. It took about thirty minutes to take everything apart and sort the parts our for storage. Using a little WD-40 on the joint between the mufflers and the exhaust pipes makes the separating these two pieces a lot easier. <br />
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The FAT Cat comes packed like it is going to be air dropped out of a cargo plane in a combat zone. Everything is bubble wrapped, taped, and then packed in styro-peanuts that are very nicely packaged in plastic bags. I can't remember the last time that anything that I ordered was so well protected. Bravo D&amp;D. <br />
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The instructions are a little less exciting. Since this exhaust fits several different years of Dyna's there are subtle difference in how it goes on the various model years. That isn't a big deal, but it leaves a little to the imagination. There are no graphics. Other than some basic instructions, some questions remain. Does the exhaust pipe assembly attach to the top of the bottom of bikes forward pipe bracket? The answer is under, but I found that out by doing some research on the web, not at D&amp;D's web site. <br />
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Tech support helped when I couldn't figure out exactly what to do with two rings that turned out to be crush washers. These pipes use crush rings rather than the much larger exhaust washers that came with the stock exhaust. <br />
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Once that was sorted out it was just a case of bolt everything together, working from the back to the front, and I was out the door with the bike. The pipes come tapped and ready for oxygen sensors and they include threaded plugs if you go a different route.<br />
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A problem developed during the end of the ride yesterday that was resolved today. One of the nuts on the exhaust flange at the back head had to be torqued down again this morning. Yesterday the exhaust started popping during deceleration when the clutch was not disengaged. There are several things that can cause this, including a lose connection at the head. I torqued it down and it improved by about 98%. <br />
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I suspect that this had to do with the fact that the nuts used have a built in washer with a friction face to keep them from coming lose. That combined with the very low torque specs for these nuts probably didn't let the header/gasket/head seal correctly yesterday. <br />
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It still makes an occasional burbling sound when decelerating with the clutch engaged, but it is a normal exhaust sound. The popping is gone except for an occasional very quite pop/burble sound. Yesterday it was loud and happened every time that I closed the throttle with the clutch engaged. The popping that I am describing is not a backfire. It was never anywhere near that loud.<br />
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So much for resolved problems. The Fat Cat is a two-into-1 exhaust system. It is a beautifully chromed system with ample heat shields. It comes with an option of four baffles. Two of them are for bikes with larger displacement, something over 103 CI. The other two are for stock displacement engines. One is the performance baffle, the other is called a quiet baffle. I bought the quiet baffle. <br />
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Let me be honest, this is the best sounding exhaust that I have ever heard on any motorcycle. Granted, sound appreciation is a very subjective thing. The Fat Cat has a deep rich sound. There is nothing tinny or blap, blap, blap about this exhaust. It has a deep rumble reminds you of why you bought a Harley every time you start the engine. It is sweet. <br />
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How loud is it you ask? Since we all perceive sound differently, I'll do my best. It is definitely louder than the stock exhaust, but it idles quietly but with more presence. It is almost as if you feel it as much as you hear it. When you get on the throttle, it barks. When you back off the throttle it quiets down a lot. In sixth gear, at cruising speed it becomes a nice rumble in the background. I could listen to it all day long.<br />
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If I could draw a comparison to another bike, it is louder than the Screaming Eagle 50 State legal pipes on my 2008 XL883, but not by much. Because it has a lower tone frequency than the SE pipes, the Fat Cat is a much nicer pipe to listen to at cruising speed. One of the factors is that the Fat Cats single muffler dumps out behind the rear axle, not just below my right ear, as the SE pipes do. <br />
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When you get on the gas is where the Fat Cat sings. The sound is, for want of another word, elegant. You feel it and you hear it, so does anyone near you. What about the sound police? Well, this is not a stock exhaust. The good news is that if you are not blipping the throttle through town or accelerating hard, you should have no issues with the police with the Fat Cat. All it takes is a little judicious use of the throttle and transmission to keep the pipe in a quiet rpm band. Just drop the bike into second gear and you can get through Blowing Rock without ruffling any feathers. Just keep the RPM's up a little. Don't load up the engine. Compared to other 2-into-1 exhaust systems that I have heard, such as the V&amp;H Pro Pipe, the Fat Cat much quieter. <br />
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How about performance? 2-into-1 exhausts have a bad reputation of sacrificing low and mid range torque and HP for a narrower power band at higher RPM's. That is why racing bikes have this sort of exhaust. D&amp;D has overcome this problem. The Fat Cat produces more torque and HP across the entire power band. There was no reduction in low end or mid range torque. What was most noticeable was that the engine didn't feel like it was lugging at the factory specified shift points - 15, 25, 35, 45, 55, whereas it did before the new pipe. This was particularly noticeable when shifting into 6th gear at 55 mph. I have been told that only the quiet baffle will produce this sort of result. The performance baffle is tuned for higher RPM riders, not cruisers. <br />
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At the moment, this is the only engine mod that has been made to the bike. It has both a stock intake and stock EFI map. There is no fuel management module either. <br />
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Conclusion - The Fat Cat 2-into-1 is a great looking, great performing exhaust that sounds like you dreamed a Harley should sound. Installation is simple with only a few tools and tech support actually answers the telephone when you call and they give good advice. The sound of the Fat Cat is the equivalent Pink Floyd. It stands apart from a long list of garage band wanna-be's whose only claim to fame is making noise. <br />
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It delivers the looks, the power and the sound. What else could you ask for from an exhaust system? When you fire up your big-twin with a Fat Cat no one will think that you are riding a Honda or a Yamaha. The sound is quintessential Harley Davidson. <br />
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Pete</div>

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			<title>cobra fuel processor</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:57:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>just had cobra fuel processor installed on my 07 efi softail duece has stage 1 upgrade and vance and hines straight shots started to notice  that on...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>just had cobra fuel processor installed on my 07 efi softail duece has stage 1 upgrade and vance and hines straight shots started to notice  that on decel backfires and stalls coming to a stop but starts right back up any ideas?to lean to rich need adjustment temps getting colder here in ct possible problem?</div>

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			<title>How do you check for an air leak</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:52:28 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Is there something that you can spray, how do you find an air leak in the exhaust system, thanks

Steve</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Is there something that you can spray, how do you find an air leak in the exhaust system, thanks<br />
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			<title>Samson exhaust</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:04:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am looking to get a 2010 dyna wide glide in the near future and was wandering what everyone thought about samsom exhaust rip saws here is a link...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am looking to get a 2010 dyna wide glide in the near future and was wandering what everyone thought about samsom exhaust rip saws here is a link for it. <a href="http://www.samsonusa.com/D2-974B.html" target="_blank">Exhaust | Legend Series | D2-974B | Sinister Ceramic Black Rip Saws for Harley Dyna Glide |06-09</a></div>

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			<title><![CDATA[V&h True Duals On '09 Softail Deluxe...burn Saddlebags??]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:11:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey people, and good afternoon.

I have a decision to make, and I am not getting much help from my dealer, nor am I getting much help from Vance &...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey people, and good afternoon.<br />
<br />
I have a decision to make, and I am not getting much help from my dealer, nor am I getting much help from Vance &amp; Hines' website or phone help, so I figured I would ask some people who know....<br />
<br />
Surely someone out there can help me with this.<br />
<br />
I have a new '09 softail deluxe, and its got the stock pipes on it.  <br />
Of course, I can hear everyone of my partners' bikes over my own, and with my windshield, it seems like I can hear every ping at rattle my engine makes.<br />
My ride sounds like a washing machine.   :eek:<br />
<br />
I need some pipes! I need to be heard. Right? Louder is indeed safer.<br />
<br />
My bike has a very vintage look...white walls and spokes, low, big vintage fenders...I even had a vintage style engine guard put on yesterday.<br />
<br />
So, I want some vintage looking pipes and exhaust, and what I want is the new, V&amp;H, true duals, made to fit the '07-'09 softail deluxe. With the fishtail tips, of course.<br />
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Im ready to buy em and have them installed, but now Im hearing that they wont fit with aftermarket saddle bags...that the bags will burn out at the bottom.<br />
<br />
I'm also not convinced that there is room between my back cylinder, and my oil tank, and the support bar that runs up the middle, to fit the backside pipe thru there, and around and under the tranny and out the back.<br />
<br />
So, before I link you to webpages and attach pics, I am hoping that someone out there has installed the true duals on their softail, and that they run below their saddlebags, and that they havent had, or maybe they have had, problems.<br />
<br />
By the way, my saddle bags are those smaller, black tear drop shaped, rigid bags that are not really that deep.  <br />
<br />
Look here...<a href="http://www.latus-harley-davidson.com/prodimages/53015_05_L_1cb26.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.latus-harley-davidson.com...05_L_1cb26.jpg</a><br />
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Those are the bags I have, and that pipe is the top pipe of the stock side exhaust pipes that come on the softail.<br />
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The dual pipes run pretty low, if you go by the images vance and hines' true dual pipes for the 09 softail.   <br />
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Well, go here: <a href="http://www.vanceandhines.com/products/st-0708-softailduals/softailduals.html" target="_blank">Vance &amp; Hines: Performance Exhaust Systems</a><br />
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You can judge, pretty much, how low the pipes will go below my bags.<br />
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So, do you think they will be alright..my saddlebags?<br />
Also, has anyone actually seen how they fit the off side header thru  and between the cylinder, and out the other side?<br />
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I appreciate the help and advice of anyone who can help me decide if I should go ahead and get these very cool pipes.<br />
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Thanks<br />
Russell</div>

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