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Old 11-03-2012, 04:33 PM   #41 (permalink)
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i think you have had enoough pain with the stripped out bolt. sorry it went that way. Really should practice on a few bolts if you never used one before but I guess you know that now.
can you replace the pan?
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:46 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Am I being too picky?

I've never cared about torque before. In the past it was either "finger tight," "snug," "tight," or "bury the sombitch."
tools are not cheap so why should you be in your choice of a quality tool. I would kick back keep using your method as its worked for you all this time and source the the right tool for the job and not the "this'll be ok version" tools are a life time investment spend your fun tickets wisely brother..
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:50 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I've changed the oil 20 times on three different bikes. Never used a torque wrench; never had a problem.

But this is my first Harley and this is the first service I'm doing myself on it. I'm going to do it right! Got me two shiny torque wrenches and I'm ready to go!

Today, I gouged the threads out of my oil pan because I didn't recognize the "click" that tells me I hit my torque. JP told me to practice on a few bolts before using the torque wrenches on my bike.

I didn't listen. Thought it would be obvious. And, cost myself a couple hundred bucks in an oil pan repair if the tap doesn't work. (It won't, I gutted the fugger good I suspect). I don't remember the last time I was this furious.

Let me have it guys, I deserve it.
Dont beat yourself up...most of us have learnt from the hip pocket nerve...imo this what makes you a biker doing your own work to your scooter, you just need to recognise when to hit the brakes and put in the shop.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:40 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I've changed the oil 20 times on three different bikes. Never used a torque wrench; never had a problem.

But this is my first Harley and this is the first service I'm doing myself on it. I'm going to do it right! Got me two shiny torque wrenches and I'm ready to go!

Today, I gouged the threads out of my oil pan because I didn't recognize the "click" that tells me I hit my torque. JP told me to practice on a few bolts before using the torque wrenches on my bike.

I didn't listen. Thought it would be obvious. And, cost myself a couple hundred bucks in an oil pan repair if the tap doesn't work. (It won't, I gutted the fugger good I suspect). I don't remember the last time I was this furious.

Let me have it guys, I deserve it.
I've always used an allen key (for future reference).

Sorry to hear of your misfortune.

It may be that the only purpose for your life is to serve as a warning to others.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:58 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I've changed the oil 20 times on three different bikes. Never used a torque wrench; never had a problem.

But this is my first Harley and this is the first service I'm doing myself on it. I'm going to do it right! Got me two shiny torque wrenches and I'm ready to go!

Today, I gouged the threads out of my oil pan because I didn't recognize the "click" that tells me I hit my torque. JP told me to practice on a few bolts before using the torque wrenches on my bike.

I didn't listen. Thought it would be obvious. And, cost myself a couple hundred bucks in an oil pan repair if the tap doesn't work. (It won't, I gutted the fugger good I suspect). I don't remember the last time I was this furious.

Let me have it guys, I deserve it.

That sucks Chief!! No point in givin ya grief as I know how ya feel. Just don't let it discourage you from working on your bike. This kind of thing happens, never feels good when it does. This too shall pass.
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:08 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Very easy to do chief! Don't beat yourself up too bad.


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Old 11-03-2012, 09:21 PM   #47 (permalink)
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awww nuts man... Hate hearing that for sure.
See what options you can come up with and don't get overly bummed about it.
If its gotta be removed for proper repair, then so be it, call it custom modified.
Perhaps now you can clean the pan out real good (i'm "really" wanting to pull mine but ya know if it ain't broke "don't fix it" so i'll leave it alone,,, maybe...) so think positive, get it fixed and move on, chit happens.
You learned that even tho you got a right tool it doesn't do the thinkin and I'd about bet you knew something didn't seem right. Trust yer gut, always...
So they'll be no beating you up over it, you've done that enough yourself.
Ain't gonna pull yer man card for trying neither, just never forget this lesson and keep on keeping on with your positive attitude.
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:53 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Oh crap, Chief! Now I'm feel'n guilty for having encouraged you to do your own service .

One of the reasons I went with the more expensive dual scale memory needle torque wrenches was to avoid exactly what happened to you. I have Tinitis and have lost about 30% of my hearing and can't trust my hearing to hear or feel those faint clicks from the click type torque wrenches. While it's sometimes inconvenient to have to rely on visually checking the gauge on the wrench to ensure proper torque, at least I know it's right.

I hope the kit works out for you and you don't have to replace the oil pan. Don't beat yourself up over it though. $hit happens. Just chalk it up to experience and move on. Don't let this one bad experience deter you from doing your own service though.
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #49 (permalink)
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It's all good guys. A couple scotches and I'm good as new. Stupid ass mistake. Better for it. Even if I need to have the pan replaced by a pro, I'll be completing the rest of the work myself. Between now and then I'll be getting some experience with those new tools so I have a clue on my second try.

I do not regret doing the service at all, just my jackassery.
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:25 PM   #50 (permalink)
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It's all good guys. A couple scotches and I'm good as new. Stupid ass mistake. Better for it. Even if I need to have the pan replaced by a pro, I'll be completing the rest of the work myself. Between now and then I'll be getting some experience with those new tools so I have a clue on my second try.

I do not regret doing the service at all, just my jackassery.
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