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03-11-2012, 05:44 AM
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KING OF THE ROAD
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S&S hl2t lifters worth it?
installing a 95" kit w/ 37G cam S&S adjustable push rods. 35,000miles on the 88". Im thinking of doing lifters with the kit. I saw the S&S lifters with the HL2T spacers and am woundering if its worth it.
S&S #33-5351
I have a set of Crain Cams 10530 lifters for a Chevy and from all told there the same as there HD lifters.
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03-11-2012, 05:50 AM
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Greasy Member
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I wouldn't do a cam job, WITHOUT replacing the lifters.
You're correct, Crane tappets are the same thing, and people have used them. The bore is the same. They're (Crane) made by Hylift-Johnson, (Now Topline Automotive Engineering) who used to also make HD's lifters, but no longer do.
The S&S tappets are great, but if you're not going to be redlining/racing the bike, anti-bottoming (Travel Limiters) features are a bit overkill, IMHO. OEMs will work and are fine. S&S tappets would work fine.
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03-11-2012, 05:56 AM
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KING OF THE ROAD
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ok thanks ill put the crains in as is. the cams were done 5000 miles ago but are fine. I think your suppose to soak the new lifters in oil for a wile 1st right?
I got these Crain lifters for free. ordered a set for a 4.3L V6 and they sent me a v8 set by mistake. that was 6 years ago. lifters are fine. they are covered in a machining oil.
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certainty of death, small chance of success. What are we waiting for?
2003 Road King Classic FLHRCI in Black and Silver $&$ 95ci at 9.7:1 comp with 37G cams and mild head work
$&$ true power duals w/ spo mufflers , adjustable S&S push rods and Lifters Dan Thayre Oil pump and cam plate.
100.89hp 107ftlbs
Mustang seat
NRA lifer
AMA member
H.O.G Member
http://s419.photobucket.com/albums/p...ord7379trucks/
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03-11-2012, 06:00 AM
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People do the tappets 2 ways.
1.) Soak in oil over night, then adjust, allowing time to bleed down.
2.) Install dry, adjustmemtn is easier, then start engine until oil pressure goes up, shut off, let sit, and they'll fill on their own.
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03-11-2012, 07:30 AM
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nitro freak
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the limiters are only needed in high lift,big spring pressure & high RPM applications.I dont think theres any reason to replace lifters with 5K on them.the whole"always replace lifters when installing a cam" thing comes from automotive cams & flat (non roller)tappets,roller tappets are a whole different ball game.if you install them without soaking,crank motor with starter (with plugs out) in 5 second intervels untill oil light goes out,then 4 more times
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03-11-2012, 07:42 AM
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KING OF THE ROAD
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lifters have 35,000 on them cam has 5000
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certainty of death, small chance of success. What are we waiting for?
2003 Road King Classic FLHRCI in Black and Silver $&$ 95ci at 9.7:1 comp with 37G cams and mild head work
$&$ true power duals w/ spo mufflers , adjustable S&S push rods and Lifters Dan Thayre Oil pump and cam plate.
100.89hp 107ftlbs
Mustang seat
NRA lifer
AMA member
H.O.G Member
http://s419.photobucket.com/albums/p...ord7379trucks/
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03-11-2012, 09:31 AM
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Greasy Member
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Replace them. HD recommends 25K replacement.
Again....not placing tappets with 35K on new cams is an issue to me. I think Kirby read your original post as the tappets ALSO having only 5K, in which my reply would have been the same as his as well: No need. I read it the same way the first time, then read it again, hence my recommendation.
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03-12-2012, 06:28 AM
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nitro freak
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@ 35K,replace them,I must have read wrong,I thought it was 5K on lifters
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03-27-2012, 05:46 AM
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Location: Munnsville, N.Y.
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S&S lifters are our choice here as of recent times, as the H-D "C" lifter is of compromised quality. 
We stocked the "B"s for almost 10 years, but can't look our client's in the eye, and reccomend that they use the Harley lifter anymore.
Too bad, as the pricing was good on those.
Scott
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03-27-2012, 08:41 AM
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Greasy Member
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I always wondered WHY HD recommends replacing their tappets at 25K, yet the same tappet is in chevy small blocks, and last much longer.....
Perhaps now that Hylift-Johnson no longer makes then, that may be part of the issue???
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Football Season is over....
“When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional.” ~ Hunter S. Thompson~
Praise the Lowered!
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4 year PA ABATE member.
RIP Rick Massey: AKA-Rubberdown. Godspeed, 02-02-12.
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