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Old 10-13-2012, 05:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Prayers sent to the family.... I never like seeing these stories either, but they are a part of life. I try and be the best rider I can, I listen, learn, and watch, doesn't mean nothing will happen. If my time comes on the bike, at least I was doing something I enjoyed. Our time comes when it comes, I just don't try to encourage to get here any sooner. Make your decision based on yourself and what you want out of life.. I can tell you though you are really missing out on something great, from the people to the machines, ya gotta ride to know what I am talking about. Take care.
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Old 10-14-2012, 08:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Agreed 100%

Also, your wife being scared for you as well as learning from accidents such as the one you posted about will make you a better rider.

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I highly suggest taking the beginner safety course and then an advanced course. I know things can still happen, but I think your/our skill level and attention to safety is greatly improved by taking them. And make sure you ride a lot to keep proficiency up.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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West of Portland Oregon.. two days ago.. veteran rider going southbound through an intersection. northbound car turns left at the intersection " didn't see the motorcycle " .. and kills the rider in a brutal crash.. not high speed at all..

* I say " we " as recently I've become enamored with getting a Harley.. but I do not have a bike.. so the " we " is a collective reference to the motorcycle community. My wife has resolved even moreso as to not approving of me getting a motorcycle..


Prayers and thoughts to all involved.. a sad day..
I lost a riding buddy in 2009. We were able to ride side by side and always new what the other was going to do or thinking. He was ridding in south jersey and went around a turn and lost control and hit a tree. Wife three young kids. I was not there. It was very hard to accept. I thought about stopping to ride. Instead I ride with his spirit every time I get on the bike. It is a dangerous lifestyle sometimes we can't control. If you love something you will always wonder and live your life not to it's fullest potential. We are all just passing through. My bro passed without any regrets.
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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We lost another rider last week as well. Left hand turn killer. He was a wrench at my local HD dealer. A great guy with a young daughter. Very sad. The driver was turning into a Dollar Store and darted across traffic and my friend couldn't evade.

Accidents are filled with what ifs - like, what if my friend would have left work one minute later or earlier?

Someone said it and it is correct. When it is your time, it is your time!

Ride safe and stay vigilant.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I believe, when god comes calling your time is up. I truly believe that even if he wasn't on a motorcycle in some other way he would have been killed. Sadly, VERY sadly it was apparently just his time to leave this planet. I don't think you can say that you aren't going to get a bike just because someone died on one. As well as saying you'll never drive a car again because someone somewhere died in one.

I rolled over my truck this summer and climbed out of it unscathed. It works both ways. Luckily for me it wasn't my time, but I could have also been killed.

Your decision isn't any of my business I just wanted to say that though.

Prayers to the family of the rider, its a tragedy and truly shocking. One day the person is their the next they are gone. It is hard to imagine and take in.
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Agreed 100%

Also, your wife being scared for you as well as learning from accidents such as the one you posted about will make you a better rider.

My wife and family were very concerned and against me having a bike for many years (with good reason). After my daughter was born I had a fantastic opportunity to get a Harley and I took it. Surprisingly everyone was okay with it. My wife said she is much more comfortable with me riding now because she has seen how much my family means to me and how much more responsible I am.


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My dad tells a story about a black gentleman he once knew years ago at an airstrip in south Texas. My dad flew back then (Cessna 180 Taildragger) and frequented that airstrip. When he first met the man, he asked him if he wanted to go for a short flight, to which the man emphatically responded, "NOOO thank you! I don't want to die!!" My dad said, "Well, when your 'number's up, your number's up,' but that's not likely the case." The man then responded, "Yeah, well, how do I know that when we get up there, YOUR number ain't up??"

I'm not sure about all that. I believe in a higher power, etc, but I think the fact that there are so many idiot drivers out there tends to have a major influence on the "Numbers."

Sad story. It's truly unfortunate.
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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just got bacl from short ride to the coast with the ol lady bike was down on side of road guy looked like was ok cops there and lots of cars stoped was laying on his back but making call on cell phone just heads up can happen any time no matter how experianced we are
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Friday, rain coming down, riding up 3rd avenue, Manhattan. 7am. My radars are always in track while scan mode. I know exactly who is behind me, who is ahead of me and who is from New Jersey. There is a truck to my 5 o'clock, in my blind spot. I know he's there because I saw him approach then he matched speed. There is a cab to my 11 o'clock a block away slowing down to a stop - no signal. I am at the center lane. My front is open, my rear is open. Cab to the far left, ahead. Traffic moving at 30. Road is slippery, rain coming down, small puddles every-where. In my mind's eye I imagine cab suddenly pulling out without a) paying attention to me b) disregarding me c) thinking that I have ABS on my bike and I can stop without skating on the road... Approaching cab, lowering my speed to let the truck pass me by so that I can swing right if I have to. Speed around 25, truck decides to slow down with me because the light ahead turned yellow. I am by the cab's right rear now about a yard away. Still slowing down, can't see the truck still - hear him (of course) still at 5 o'clock. Cab suddenly pulls out towards the right as I am side by side with him - I can't slow down any faster, rear tire won't hold (I know) Truck started passing me by. Cabs getting closer, I slow and drift as much as I can to the right. Light red ahead. I can't even hit the horn I need to keep steady. Speed around 15mph decreasing rapidly, truck passing by - hind wheels on my shoulder. I cannot stop, cab moving, I am in the middle. Cab stops, truck driver maintains straight vector, slows down, I pull in front of the cab and start breathing again.

All, in less than 5 seconds...

Ditto. When it's your time it's your time. Youtube is full of videos of people making amazing recoveries, near-death passes. And newspapers are full of stories of people getting shot while trying to watch a movie in the theater.

All we can do is the best we can with the time we're given. I've lost brothers in car crashes, bike crashes, gun shots, war (no joke). Fear will not help anyone. Though the rule is firm: Don't be like "what ever will be will be, the future is not ours to see" and stop wearing your seat belt or not wear protective gear. Then you turn into an irresponsible douche-bag and not just kill yourself but get others killed with you. But don't turn into a scared sissy and stay at home because people are getting killed out there. Then you become a useless douche-bag for everyone around you.

We listen, we learn, we adapt, we develop and we enjoy; the best we can.

All my prayers go out to the lost brothers and sisters, and the ones they left behind. May all find the peace they deserve wherever they are.

Ride on!

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Old 10-22-2012, 10:33 AM   #18 (permalink)
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All we can do is the best we can with the time we're given. I've lost brothers in car crashes, bike crashes, gun shots, war (no joke). Fear will not help anyone. Though the rule is firm: Don't be like "what ever will be will be, the future is not ours to see" and stop wearing your seat belt or not wear protective gear. Then you turn into an irresponsible douche-bag and not just kill yourself but get others killed with you. But don't turn into a scared sissy and stay at home because people are getting killed out there. Then you become a useless douche-bag for everyone around you.

We listen, we learn, we adapt, we develop and we enjoy; the best we can.

All my prayers go out to the lost brothers and the ones they left behind. May they find the peace they deserve wherever they are.

Ride on!
Good summary of a dangerous situation and glad things ended up ok. I agree that we can do the best with the time we're given. Although sometimes things are out of our control, by good defensive driving and staying aware (as you described in your post), we can increase our chances of keeping the rubber on the road. To be completely safe I guess I can stay in my living room hiding under the couch, but that's not living life.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:42 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I believe, when god comes calling your time is up. I truly believe that even if he wasn't on a motorcycle in some other way he would have been killed. Sadly, VERY sadly it was apparently just his time to leave this planet. I don't think you can say that you aren't going to get a bike just because someone died on one. As well as saying you'll never drive a car again because someone somewhere died in one.

I rolled over my truck this summer and climbed out of it unscathed. It works both ways. Luckily for me it wasn't my time, but I could have also been killed.

Your decision isn't any of my business I just wanted to say that though.

Prayers to the family of the rider, its a tragedy and truly shocking. One day the person is their the next they are gone. It is hard to imagine and take in.
I spent this past weekend riding the whole time, and have been thinking a lot about this. Your response is exactly the conclusion I have come to find peace with: I will go when God calls me - whether I'm on a bike or not. Of course, I could probably speed up the process by not being on my guard, or just being reckless. But I agree with you that when it's my time, it's my time - whether riding in traffic and meeting up with a retard in a cage or passing in my sleep. You can't stop living for fear of dying. - If you do, are you really living?

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Old 12-11-2012, 09:50 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Very sorry to hear of the death of a rider. Rode all brands of bikes some 40 + years ago and only got back into it some 2 plus years ago(now 70) These past couple years have had three near misses of serious accidents w/ autos and still riding whenever possible.
Wife rides with me at times and that is my biggest fear in that I might injure or kill her just so I could ride a motorcycle. Very cautious when she goes and cautious with just me riding as well. Is it high risk, yes it is w/ many of the drivers of autos these days, but as stated above, can't live in a padded cell and besides, don't have much rope left these days and trying to enjoy whatever I can while I can.
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