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Old 11-22-2012, 02:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2012 Heritage Classic exhaust

I have a 2012 Heritage classic and want to replace the exhaust. I stopped by the dealer yesterday to get a price on V&H Big shots long. He explained to me that they would not have enough back pressure and I would need to spend about $2100 (est) to make them work. He suggested I go with the Screaming Eagle Slip Ons for about $400 instead. Any thoughts, I am new to Harley's always had metric and don't want to make a mistake. Thanks for any help.


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Old 11-22-2012, 03:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have a 2012 Heritage classic and want to replace the exhaust. I stopped by the dealer yesterday to get a price on V&H Big shots long. He explained to me that they would not have enough back pressure and I would need to spend about $2100 (est) to make them work. He suggested I go with the Screaming Eagle Slip Ons for about $400 instead. Any thoughts, I am new to Harley's always had metric and don't want to make a mistake. Thanks for any help.


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Your dealer is hard-selling you SE pipes.

VH Big/Long/Short Shots have baffles, albeit barely. However, your bike also has O2 sensors that will make some adjustment in the AFR, and as long as you don't change to an open style air filter, the bike will be fine. Even at that, the AFR will be returned to the OEM setting (14.7:1) but it won't help with performance and temps from the engine.

Keep in mind, due to the reduced baffling and slowed exhaust velovity, you may see a slight decrease in mid-range torque, but in all likelihood, you probably won't feel it.

Funny shiit...... $2100 if you buy V&H, but buy SE, and you'll only have to pay $400.

I love the BS dealers come up with sometimes to get you to buy their stuff.
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Of course the dealer is gonna tell you that...he wants to sell you the MoCo's Screamin Eagle slip-ons.

Even if the V&H Big shots long didn't have enough back pressure, which I doubt, you could still install baffles to create the back pressure you'd need.

I see Dave63 answered better that I ever could .

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Old 11-22-2012, 03:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've had them on my 06 for 5 years. I had no problem with just the pipes in the beginning. I've added the air and a power commander, it made a huge difference
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks guys, I like the sound and look of the long shots best so will continue on that road. Have a great Thanksgiving.


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Old 11-27-2012, 08:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Like Lambo I, too, have Vance & Hines Big Shot Longs with a SE Stage I Air Cleaner on my 08 Hertiage Classic. Huge difference in performance. Out-the-door with pipes, Stage I, EFI, Dyno and labor I paid just under $1,900.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I put V&H True Duals, Long Shots, K&N cold air and a Power Commander V on my wife's 2010 Heritage and it runs like a raped aped.
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I went with Rinehart Churchill and Nightrider XIED on my 2009 FLSTC.


About $400 total. Churchills are on sale for $300 and the XIED was on sale for 99.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I had V&h big shot staggered, SE air filter and stage1 bike runs great. No problems at all. I think it all came in just under $2000
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