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post #1 of 48 (permalink) Old 02-25-2012, 07:48 AM Thread Starter
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not sure of 883 conversion

Looking at buying a 2000 883 that I have been told has the 1200 conversion kit, not the bored out version.
Getting it from a guy who has a small dealership and does both cars and bikes.
Has no papers that it has been done, but says, "its obvious that it has been". How can I tell for sure? It has 51,000km.
The cyclinders also show discoloration on the left of the bike and wondered if this is due to heat, like the pipes get.
Can that be cleaned or should I be worried it is something serious?

As you can see, I am a new bike rider and this will be my first HD.
Please take a look at my photos and send any words of wisdom my way.

Thanks for your time.
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post #2 of 48 (permalink) Old 02-25-2012, 07:57 AM
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If it was a real conversion, they would still have receipts for the parts.
Even if they did their own machining.

Take it to another shop, HD dealers included and ask them to determine if it is still an 883 or a 1200.
Then trust that other shop more than the one you bought if from.

btw: "bored out" is not lesser quality.

IMHO, visiting an HD dealer, and buying or financing a HD via HD credit gets you a bike HD will stand behind and honor the warrantee they give you.

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I would NOT buy a conversion Unless I personally Knew the converter
and he had a very good long known track record..

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I passed on all the bikes for sale that were "converted" when I was looking for one. No seller had receipts and half weren't sure themselves if it was done. Really got a kick out of that one. lol

+2 on buying from a dealer. My bike has a warrenty until july 2017 with a fifty dollar deductable..pretty hard to beat that.


And to answer your question how can you tell for sure. There a few ways discused on youtube that might be helpful. ex. one is like getting the piston to bdc putting a dowel through the spark plug hole and measureing it. if its this lenth its an 1200. etc.. I can not vouch for the accuracy of the tecniques used. Never used them and not sure myself

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No proof-No conversion.

If it's so obvious, then let him show you the vast obviousness, of the obvious.

Obviously.

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Sportster jugs are marked....883/1200. he told you he did'nt bore the stock jugs......then look along the bottom of the jugs for the 1200 marking. if it has 883....he either bored them out, or did'nt do a conversion.

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I would NOT buy a conversion Unless I personally Knew the converter
and he had a very good long known track record..
True dat. But since I don't know any mechanics I would never buy one.

Often I read here about problems with converted bikes, probably the ones done in someone's gravel driveway by "hammer mechanics".
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My brothers sporty is a conversion done by an independent dealer. (a 1200 conversion like as in bigger cylinders)

Power wise in comparison to an 883 it is obvious that the bike has way more power now. (the 1200 conversion has more power then when it was a stock 883)

Problem is, lots of other upgrades can be done to give you the same amount of power as a 1200 with an 883 motor (MEANING THAT!!!! the bike the OP is looking at could have other modifications done to the 883 motor like cams heads ignition etc etc that makes the power similar or more then a 1200(stock) even, but is less reliable and of course not really a 1200 conversion)

Hope the changes help as well as all of my responses to other people's inferences, and I'm sorry to interrupt the thread on the OP, but apparently what I said was very flawed and hard to understand so I wanted to clear it up)

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My brothers sporty is a conversion done by an independent dealer.

Power wise in comparison to an 883 it is obvious that the bike has way more power now.

Problem is, lots of other upgrades can be done to give you the same amount of power as a 1200 with an 883 motor

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Problem is, lots of other upgrades can be done to give you the same amount of power as a 1200 with an 883 motor
Not with Stage 1. Maybe Stage 2 or Stage 3, which means tearing the motor down to put in cams, different heads, etc..
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