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11-11-2012, 03:02 PM
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I'm baffled
I had Vance & Hines Staggered Short Shots with the quiet baffles in. I wanted to try the standard baffle so spent 3 hours removing the pipes and heat shields, and drilling a hole in the back side of the heat shields for access to the set screw ( I wrote V&H and suggested that they put a hole there ) for the next time. Put in new port gaskets and re-installed.
Much better sound. Deeper and a bit louder. But, I don't know if it's the 62 degree air in Southern California, or the baffles, But it is running super strong on the freeway.
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Ward, don't you think you were a little rough on the Beaver last night?
2005 XL1200C Vance & Hines Staggered Short Stacks w/QQ Thunder Monster Baffles, D & M chrome spike air cleaner, 48, 185 jets, 12" Burly's, Mustang Cyclone solo seat, Progressive 412 shocks.
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11-11-2012, 03:11 PM
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There's a fine line between over-baffling, and performance baffling.
You can have a set of pipes that are designed for performance, and adding too much baffle can swing the horsepower/torque needle in the other direction.
Exhaust velocity needs to be at 300 ft/min, and too stuffy of pipes can slow that down, just as much as too large of diameter pipe, or not enough baffling. (Restriction)
I've seen with my own Vance & Hines pipes, the bike ran better and was easier to jet with the race bafles, VS the quiet baffles, which I bought, installed and removed about 55 minutes after installing them.
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11-11-2012, 03:19 PM
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For sale: 2 quiet baffles with 200 miles on them.
I must say, though, when I saw a Highway Patrol sitting on the side of the freeway, I was a bit paranoid and took the next exit off and went back the other way.
 
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Ward, don't you think you were a little rough on the Beaver last night?
2005 XL1200C Vance & Hines Staggered Short Stacks w/QQ Thunder Monster Baffles, D & M chrome spike air cleaner, 48, 185 jets, 12" Burly's, Mustang Cyclone solo seat, Progressive 412 shocks.
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11-11-2012, 03:21 PM
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Is your jetting the same, and you just adjusted the AF screw?? That's all I did.
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Football Season is over....
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Praise the Lowered!
11 year A.M.A. member.
4 year PA ABATE member.
RIP Rick Massey: AKA-Rubberdown. Godspeed, 02-02-12.
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11-11-2012, 03:47 PM
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Before i put a turbo on my bike I had V&H pipes with the standard baffles and I got a pair of the quiet baffles because it was quite loud. When I put the quiet baffles in I noticed a significant decrease in power and it was not that much quieter..
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11-11-2012, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave63
Is your jetting the same, and you just adjusted the AF screw?? That's all I did.
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I bought the bike from a Navy guy in San Diego, CA. who bought it from a Navy guy in Florida. It had Florida plates on it. When I put on Python slip ons and a 5" round K&N filter I bought a jet kit. When I tore the carb apart I found it had 48 ( instead of 45?) & 180 jets in it. The A/F adjustment plug had already been removed. I put in 185 jet and kept the 48 in it. I adjusted the A/F adjuster out 2 1/2 turns I believe. It's been that way since I changed to V&H pipes.
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Ward, don't you think you were a little rough on the Beaver last night?
2005 XL1200C Vance & Hines Staggered Short Stacks w/QQ Thunder Monster Baffles, D & M chrome spike air cleaner, 48, 185 jets, 12" Burly's, Mustang Cyclone solo seat, Progressive 412 shocks.
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11-29-2012, 05:25 PM
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Where can I get the regular baffles. When I bought the bike is had unbaffled short shots. I bought and installed the quiet baffles because that was all I could find. If the regular baffles are better I might try those.
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12-01-2012, 07:59 AM
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Well, after riding through some beach cities on PCH, I realized that the bike is just too loud for comfort with the standard baffles and too quiet and restricted with the "quiet baffles".
So, I'm chancing it and ordered a set of Big City Thunder QQ baffles.
QQ Thunder Monster Baffles
I'm going to have a mini fortune spent on baffles. I hope I didn't f*ck up by not ordering the ORIGINAL THUNDER MONSTER BAFFLES. I just thought they, too, would be too loud.
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Ward, don't you think you were a little rough on the Beaver last night?
2005 XL1200C Vance & Hines Staggered Short Stacks w/QQ Thunder Monster Baffles, D & M chrome spike air cleaner, 48, 185 jets, 12" Burly's, Mustang Cyclone solo seat, Progressive 412 shocks.
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12-01-2012, 09:02 AM
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I have the same problem squeekie. I've got V&H True Duals on my Heritage and without the baffles they are outrageously loud and I get a ton of decel popping. I set off car alarms and get looks from LEOs as I pass by them on the highway when they're ticketing some cager. They also make my ears ring after long rides even with a full faced helmet on.
I bought and installed the Quiet Baffles but now it's a little too quiet. My sister laughs when I pull up to her place...she says it now sounds like a sewing machine...bit#$  .
I've still got the original longer, open baffles but one of the bolt retainers broke off when I removed them and I can't find it. I'd have to have a machine shop make another with the correct threading and spot weld it on the baffle. Probably be cheaper to just buy another set.
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12-01-2012, 09:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RAD_Softail
I have the same problem squeekie. I've got V&H True Duals on my Heritage and without the baffles they are outrageously loud and I get a ton of decel popping. I set off car alarms and get looks from LEOs as I pass by them on the highway when they're ticketing some cager. They also make my ears ring after long rides even with a full faced helmet on.
I bought and installed the Quiet Baffles but now it's a little too quiet. My sister laughs when I pull up to her place...she says it now sounds like a sewing machine...bit#$  .
I've still got the original longer, open baffles but one of the bolt retainers broke off when I removed them and I can't find it. I'd have to have a machine shop make another with the correct threading and spot weld it on the baffle. Probably be cheaper to just buy another set.
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Yeah, it's too much work driving and keeping an eye out for LEO's. Especially when driving through a quaint beach town ( ie. Laguna Beach) where they sit on the curb watching for any little screw up.
Why not just weld a regular nut in place of the missing one? Or, don't even weld it in. Just bolt and nut it.
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Ward, don't you think you were a little rough on the Beaver last night?
2005 XL1200C Vance & Hines Staggered Short Stacks w/QQ Thunder Monster Baffles, D & M chrome spike air cleaner, 48, 185 jets, 12" Burly's, Mustang Cyclone solo seat, Progressive 412 shocks.
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