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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 04-18-2019, 05:05 PM Thread Starter
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Got lectured by millennial sport bike rider!

I was driving down US19 in Port Richey Florida when I changed lanes from the far right to the middle. Checking my mirrors, I saw a couple sport bikes back at least 1000 feet, in the middle lane I was moving to. Thinking I had plenty of time, I signaled and changed slowly but at the rate of speed the sport bikes were traveling, they were on me as soon as I was crossing the line with my blinker still on. The one in front revved his motor way up as he went around me. They got stopped at the next red light and I was now behind them. The one who revved his motor turned around and looked at me, and I just lifted my hands as to say, "what"! Well, he then dismounted his bike (stoplight still red) and walked over to my drivers side and told me I took half of his lane. I replied that I signaled well in advance, and by the way, I ride too buddy. He then said, "use your eyes, use your eyes" and walked back to his bike, the light already green. They both sprinted off the line and were weaving in and out of traffic far in front of me. Had I not just gotten out of surgery 6 weeks ago, I may have reacted a bit differently. Bottom line is, I didn't know what his intentions were when he approached my window, he could have easily tried to throw a punch at me. Thankfully nothing happened.

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I was driving down US19 in Port Richey Florida when I changed lanes from the far right to the middle. Checking my mirrors, I saw a couple sport bikes back at least 1000 feet, in the middle lane I was moving to. Thinking I had plenty of time, I signaled and changed slowly but at the rate of speed the sport bikes were traveling, they were on me as soon as I was crossing the line with my blinker still on. The one in front revved his motor way up as he went around me. They got stopped at the next red light and I was now behind them. The one who revved his motor turned around and looked at me, and I just lifted my hands as to say, "what"! Well, he then dismounted his bike (stoplight still red) and walked over to my drivers side and told me I took half of his lane. I replied that I signaled well in advance, and by the way, I ride too buddy. He then said, "use your eyes, use your eyes" and walked back to his bike, the light already green. They both sprinted off the line and were weaving in and out of traffic far in front of me. Had I not just gotten out of surgery 6 weeks ago, I may have reacted a bit differently. Bottom line is, I didn't know what his intentions were when he approached my window, he could have easily tried to throw a punch at me. Thankfully nothing happened.
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Chill. There are lots of selfish folks, ignorant folks, rude folks and others all running around loose. Pay them no mind.
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Could have resulted in that!!
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That riders reaction was wrong. He should never have gotten off his bike. Could create a very bad situation for all involved. You didn't know how he was going to react and he didn't know if you had a defensive tool or not.

But...I'll be the devil's advocate for a minute. You should have gauged those riders speed a little better and not changed lanes. Just because you signaled early doesn't mean a driver/rider in another lane HAS to let you move. That signal is a statement of desire in that situation and is 100% dependent on the other lanes occupant to let you over, and just because you physically could move, doesn't mean you should.

If the roles were reversed, everyone here would be pissed at the cager for coming over on you...and rightfully so.

Not coming down on you, 'cuz everyone makes mistakes and at least this one didn't hurt anyone. I am also glad that there was no escalation of the confrontation beyond words.

That look on my face is not concern, its shock at your utter stupidity!

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I guy that I know well was in his car at a stoplight when a guy walked up and took a swing, the guy i know grabbed the mad guys arm and floored it, and hung on to the stupid guys arm for some time. People that ride or drive like idiots usually think bad things that happen to them are the fault of someone else. The guy I know thinks that the skinned up guy may have been under the influence of something or just really stupid.

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I guy that I know well was in his car at a stoplight when a guy walked up and took a swing, the guy i know grabbed the mad guys arm and floored it, and hung on to the stupid guys arm for some time. People that ride or drive like idiots usually think bad things that happen to them are the fault of someone else. The guy I know thinks that the skinned up guy may have been under the influence of something or just really stupid.

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That riders reaction was wrong. He should never have gotten off his bike. Could create a very bad situation for all involved. You didn't know how he was going to react and he didn't know if you had a defensive tool or not.

But...I'll be the devil's advocate for a minute. You should have gauged those riders speed a little better and not changed lanes. Just because you signaled early doesn't mean a driver/rider in another lane HAS to let you move. That signal is a statement of desire in that situation and is 100% dependent on the other lanes occupant to let you over, and just because you physically could move, doesn't mean you should.

If the roles were reversed, everyone here would be pissed at the cager for coming over on you...and rightfully so.

Not coming down on you, 'cuz everyone makes mistakes and at least this one didn't hurt anyone. I am also glad that there was no escalation of the confrontation beyond words.
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Crotch rockets accelerate quick and most of the ones I encounter are speeding. It is very hard to gauge their speed, especially if they are accelerating. I wasn't there and neither were either of you, so I'm not going to be self righteous and blame debo.

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That riders reaction was wrong. He should never have gotten off his bike. Could create a very bad situation for all involved. You didn't know how he was going to react and he didn't know if you had a defensive tool or not.

But...I'll be the devil's advocate for a minute. You should have gauged those riders speed a little better and not changed lanes. Just because you signaled early doesn't mean a driver/rider in another lane HAS to let you move. That signal is a statement of desire in that situation and is 100% dependent on the other lanes occupant to let you over, and just because you physically could move, doesn't mean you should.

If the roles were reversed, everyone here would be pissed at the cager for coming over on you...and rightfully so.

Not coming down on you, 'cuz everyone makes mistakes and at least this one didn't hurt anyone. I am also glad that there was no escalation of the confrontation beyond words.
As far as I know, all merging in the US is like this. Nobody in any travel lane has to allow anyone over, even people coming from on ramps (emergency vehicles except when lights and/or sirens), even if it is common courtesy to slow up and "zipper merge". It is always the one doing the merging that is supposed to do so safely and the responsibility is on them, legally speaking.

Which means: look, look twice and look again. Unfortunately, taking so much time to be absolutely sure it is clear and safe means you could get stuck where you are for a while.

Reminds me of 4-way stop rules. Nobody legally has the right-of-way; right-of-way is always yielded at a 4-way. So if someone fails to yield according to the rules, and you punch it anyway when it was supposed to be your turn and you hit them, you could be at fault. Whoever moves first technically has the right-of-way the minute they start moving, even if they took it off turn.

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