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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 10-07-2019, 12:44 PM Thread Starter
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Have I lost my mind?

What a weekend. Rode out with @Delta for 150 miles and had a blowout in the rear tire, valve stem cracked. A $385 tow and $775 tire and pads and we rode the 150 miles back to my house.

The dealer told me the brake fluid needed to be flushed. I said no, I would do it. I did some reading during the 3 hours waiting on the bike. Of course, I find out I can flush it, but I have to take to Harley to re-calibrate the ABS. Only Harley has the DTII diagnostic tool and they want you to flush it every 2 years. If you don't have ABS, they don't seem to have the water problem. Great engineering there boys.

While I was fuming in the waiting area, I told Bill "maybe I should sell it and go back to an EVO bagger". I know them inside and out. I am not a huge fan of the Infotainment system. I don't like ABS. I am not confident in the can bus system. I don't like the O2 sensors or catalytic converter. Maintenance, batteries, tires and assorted parts all cost more.

On the plus side, Fuel injection is good an dependable. The ride and handling are better. The 103 is a great powerplant. More storage room and I like the saddle bag and tour pack latches better.

Mulling it over, but not having a payment is nice. Put that money into mods and the EVO can be a super screamer with great suspension.

I guess it is my way of saying, HD has lost its way. It's not about the ride, it's about the bells and whistles. We used to be the ones to add the bells and whistles, now the factory does it for us and then we can't work on it.
Yes, I remember the EVO needed a clutch, lifters and stator about every 30k to 40k miles.

No snap decisions. I owe $12.5k, KBB trade in is $14.3k, retail $18.7k and NADA is the same. Autotrader has 3 nearly identical bikes within 150 miles from $15.9k to $19k.

Am I crazy (rhetorical)?

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Nope, then again, a few people told me I was crazy to build my Evo. "For the money you're spending, why not just get a used 110 TC and get even more power?"

I'm right there with you though. I don't care much about infotainment. I like being able to work on my own stuff.

But, I'm a little biased...

If you go back to an Evo and want it built... well, let me get mine broken in and you can come test ride it (if you want to see what's been done, look at my garage at the red one). It feels awesome how I built it. I haven't even broken 3K rpm yet and I'm already loving it even more than I used to.

Plus, we've got even further improved parts options now compared to what used to be.

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What a weekend. Rode out with @Delta for 150 miles and had a blowout in the rear tire, valve stem cracked. A $385 tow and $775 tire and pads and we rode the 150 miles back to my house.
You haven't lost yer mind........just a chunk of yer wallet.

+ 1 for EVO over "NEW & Improved" models
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It doesn't help that there is a pretty low mileage (5k miles!) green and black basically stock '97 down in San Antonio.

https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/...TCU-5008994216
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I've got a 30 yrs old Evo. What I have to keep remembering is the bike is 30 yrs old. At that age reliability goes out the window.

That's why I have a TC as back up.

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Yeah, I love my shovel, but I don't know if I would venture across country on it. But then again, 90% of typical repairs can be made on the side of the road and you keep going until you can perform a correct repair. Try that with a can bus system.

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Roy, I know just enough about this to be dangerous. But...., my indy, Dale Clover Clover Cycle Works : Harley-Davidson Repair Specialists used to run a big shop for years then closed it up, is mostly retired now but works out of his semi rural home for preferred/referred folks only. Dale told me he obtained the necessary software to handle ABS in the past, think he said it cost him $1,800 way back when. So, there are those out there who bought the "stuff" and it's not just Harley dealers who can do the ABS thing.
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I'm not really in a position to respond because I don't work on my stuff. I don't have the tools or a nice, protected garage to facilitate a comfortable work area. My carport is brutal in January trying to even check the tire pressure. However, I have over 111k on a 2012 RKC with a stock TC103 engine and have the utmost confidence in it's reliability. I also have the ABS option, requested it actually when I purchased it new. While it's not all rainbows and unicorns, I have learned some of it's quirks in the last seven years, I am quite happy with the modern engineering. I would agree with you, if I were to consider a newer model, there is a whole lot of extra "stuff" that is now offered that I wouldn't want or need.
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Fun topic. Thanks, you guys definitely help in the thought process. It's not a decision I will make today or probably not even for 6 months. If I wait until spring, the bike would net a couple extra dollars anyways.

I love riding. I like wrenching. I don't like depending on the dealer. I did just buy a moisture meter for my brakes, it'll be here by the end of the week. Good tool to have regardless. $1800 to have software to calibrate ABS is not gonna happen.

I love having my choices. I don't plan to ever sell the '04 Springer. The '83 FLHT is safe for a while. The '93 Dyna... no real investment emotionally. Could wind up as trade bait for an EVO FLHT. The '16 has become my main daily transportation. It's got just over 38k miles. Dependable.

The nice thing is I have time on my side.

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It doesn't help that there is a pretty low mileage (5k miles!) green and black basically stock '97 down in San Antonio.

https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/...TCU-5008994216

Don't sell..... just add this one to the stable.... you have a mamouth garage/shop to fill up..... get with it!

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