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post #1 of 48 (permalink) Old 11-10-2016, 01:29 PM Thread Starter
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V&H fuelpak OR Dyno tune?

Have a 2011 forty-eight with V&H short shots & screaming eagle stage 1 air cleaner. My bike is running lean. Trying to decide between getting it dyno tuned, or getting the V&H fuelpak and tuning that way. Heard a dyno tune can be bad on the engine. Any experiences to share, or advice? Thanks!
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post #2 of 48 (permalink) Old 11-10-2016, 01:45 PM
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I have 2011 softail classic with V&H 2-1 and stage 1 filter. I use the V&H FP3 and have nothing but great things to say. You will use it for more than tuning your bike. I paid $350 on Amazon.
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I have the FP3 also and love it. If I ever jump up and get cams, i won't need another tuner or redyno.
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Great thanks! How is your power when taking off from a stop? I still have the stock air cleaner, haven't put the new stage 1 cleaner on yet until I decide what to do. My bike doesn't have as much power as before when I am taking off from a complete stop. Now its like there is a hesitation/pause when I throttle and eventually it catches up.
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Those short pipes are not helping your bottom end power.

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I've done both. What are you trying to achieve? What other mods to bike? Future plans?

I switched from FP3 to PV
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I just bought a FP3 from Amazon for under $300
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In a perfect world, both.
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I didnt dyno tune but I did do dyno runs before and after applying map changes from auto-tuning on my FP3 and saw definite improvement where the curves smoothed out, and also gained a few digits on both HP and torque lines. Would dyno tuning perfect my map better than the FP3? Maybe, or even probably, but at $500 per session for dyno tuning and possible future mods in mind I'm happy with my FP3.

In my opinion, the only way improving your tune or map is going to be "bad" on the motor is that you're going to run it harder than you otherwise might, both during the tune and probably afterwards as you ride it. Whether you're tuning or just doing a dyno run they're going to run it at higher RPM than you might, all the way to the rev limiter, and once you have improved it you are probably going to want to explore and play with your "new" motor.
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FP3 for stock applications or Intake/exhaust + FP3 are "ok" at best. The FP3 is still new(er) technology. Imho Technoresearch has a similar to FP3 unit, that actually works better. And right around the same price.

You will NEVER have an out of box "flash map" tuner beat out an actual Dyno Tune. As far as the FP3 auto tune, I'd be very careful. Call VH they will tell you the same.

I switched to a PV with a real tune. It's worth every penny.
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