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I'm not reckless, but have been pulled over a few times, one thing I do is always tell the officer the truth. Of the times I"ve been pulled over, I've been ticketed twice, both deserved. Some are just going to write you and thats that, its their job, nothing personal.
It still pisses me off. I realize that was technically my fault but it still pisses me off.
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There's no "official" written quota. That's illegal. However, it's tough to go on shift for 8 hours and not witness at least 2-3 people speeding.


So...you have officers that will run around like crazy people (We call them "Hammers") and write tickets all day, and others who realize that they get the same pay, for sitting in their car, and doing the minimum.

Some cops LIKE writing tickets.

So.....a department may say that YOUR JOB is to write traffic tickets, and expect to see XYZ tickets a month, but it's not mandated. Unless you have a bunch of other arrests and citations to explain why there's few traffic citations handed in, you have to have SOMETHING to justify 8 hours a day in uniform.

It's not something in writing but you DO have a job to do and you're expected to do it.
Dave he was a Maryland state trooper and he personally told me that he was expected to give out a x amount of speeding tickets in a month.now i`m going off of what he told me and view him to be a very honest person .

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Dave he was a Maryland state trooper and he personally told me that he was expected to give out a x amount of speeding tickets in a month.now i`m going off of what he told me and view him to be a very honest person .
I don't doubt it. If they call it something other than a quota, its legal till someone complains.......

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I don't doubt it. If they call it something other than a quota, its legal till someone complains.......
And, if it`s not in writing where is the proof of it`s existence?

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I spoke to my nieghbor today who was a x texas state trooper and i asked him if he was expected to give out a certain amount of speeding violation tickects in a month and he told me most definatley that they were expected to do so.. must be a code of silence for some not to admit to it ??

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As for our State Troopers, they're spread pretty thin. Part of their day is spent responding to accidents. If all they had to do was write tickets, they would only be limited by how long it takes to write the tickets. My hat is off for our Troopers. They do a good job trying to keep our roads safe.
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I spoke to my nieghbor today who was a x texas state trooper and i asked him if he was expected to give out a certain amount of speeding violation tickects in a month and he told me most definatley that they were expected to do so.. must be a code of silence for some not to admit to it ??
If its not in writing then it does not exist. Many business`es get away with violations because it is not "in writing".

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kinda like the ITS COMPANY POLICY to screw u outta your two weeks paid vacation when we lay u off ! happened to me once and called the labor board to find out my rights . and i was told if thats the company policy then that how it is. WTF?there should be a law against corupt chit like that!!
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What is`t covered in writing is generally covered by "past practice."
Usually not a good thing when it`s a business with $$$ vs an individual.

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I spoke to my nieghbor today who was a x texas state trooper and i asked him if he was expected to give out a certain amount of speeding violation tickects in a month and he told me most definatley that they were expected to do so.. must be a code of silence for some not to admit to it ??
Here's the legality part of it: If you placed "Official" quotas on officers, that means at the end of the month, if below that required quota, officers would be forced to FIND infractions and that leads to officer stress, possible infraction fabrication, but worse yet, it takes discretion away from an officer that he uses when citing or NOT citing a motorist.

There's a serious danger to the public if on day 29, an officer has to "find" and write 20 citation because he only has 5 for that month.

This leads to possible fabricated charges, court appeals, overtime for hearings and liability for an department for false arrests and possible fraud.

If a department tells their officers they need xyz amount, it is a minimum performance number and generally, a low, easy number to achieve.

Like I said.......sit at an intersection sometime for 15 minutes and you can count 10 violations in that time. Minimum performance standards are acceptable. If not......guys would sit and drink coffee all day long and get paid for it. Make more sense?

There's a difference between being given a reasonable, minimum number of citations like 10-20 to be written in a 30 day period as a minimum performance standard VS being told 100 a month. Its a number you could achieve by accident. Not have to go out and harass the public over.

Hell.....you can write 1-2 citations for one 2 car accident.

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