Anyone ever have left over bolts after working on engine

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midnightrun7

Discussion Starter · Sep 19, 2014

[/B]I just did a top end overhaul / service on my 2011 FLHTK Touring Limited/ I dis-assembled the entire upper part of the engine because of valve train noise and found Mega Caron Build-UP.
Cleaned everything first, scraped and scrubbed Combustion Chamber, Pistons. Changed Pushrods and Tappets. Replaced ring on my SE High Compression Pistons. Replaced Oil Pump because it had score marks on the inside gurator and pump housing. Cleaned and honed valves, washed real good for abrasive materials etc... replaced cracked V and H headers below the six speed near mounting bracket etc..
Put everything back together and have four (4) BOLTS LEFT OVER. they are # 6 Flange Bolts (Black). The same bolts that go into the Top Breather Assembly, (2) on each cylinder head...(the smaller / thinner of them all. I feel like a jerk but I took pictures, used the service manual, you tube and help from others.
Dis-assembled and re-assembled and can't find where these bolts came from unless they came with the gasket kit I bought which I doubt because they looks used.
I did not dis-assemble the crankcase or the transmission. I took the bike out today for a 150 mile run and ran fine except I think I need to adjust my clutch...slight slippage up a hill with open throttle up a hill and balls out.
These Bolts are labeled 6 on top, 6 points or flats... which I believe is 6mm and they are Hillman black 1.75 inch or 2 inches long to end of head.
Anyone have any info on this I would greatly appreciate it
Thanks

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scol

· #2 · Sep 19, 2014

midnightrun7 said:
[/B]I just did a top end overhaul / service on my 2011 FLHTK Touring Limited/ I dis-assembled the entire upper part of the engine because of valve train noise and found Mega Caron Build-UP.
Cleaned everything first, scraped and scrubbed Combustion Chamber, Pistons. Changed Pushrods and Tappets. Replaced ring on my SE High Compression Pistons. Replaced Oil Pump because it had score marks on the inside gurator and pump housing. Cleaned and honed valves, washed real good for abrasive materials etc... replaced cracked V and H headers below the six speed near mounting bracket etc..
Put everything back together and have four (4) BOLTS LEFT OVER. they are # 6 Flange Bolts (Black).

The same bolts that go into the Top Breather Assembly, (2) on each cylinder head...(the smaller / thinner of them all. I feel like a jerk but I took pictures, used the service manual, you tube and help from others.
Dis-assembled and re-assembled and can't find where these bolts came from unless they came with the gasket kit I bought which I doubt because they looks used.

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I did not dis-assemble the crankcase or the transmission. I took the bike out today for a 150 mile run and ran fine except I think I need to adjust my clutch...slight slippage up a hill with open throttle up a hill and balls out.
These Bolts are labeled 6 on top, 6 points or flats... which I believe is 6mm and they are Hillman black 1.75 inch or 2 inches long to end of head.
Anyone have any info on this I would greatly appreciate it
Thanks

Whats the possibility that you got new bolts with new parts and the two that are left were replaced?

You said bike is running OK, you ran it for150 mi. From where I'm sitting it's OK adjust the clutch.

Falcon

· #3 · Sep 19, 2014

Afraid I can't help you, but god knows I feel your pain. Had the bike up on the lift the other night, was airing the tires. I noted the nut that secures the valve stem to the wheel was loose (laced wheel). Looks like it might have been a 3/8 or a 7/16 nut, so I grabbed both wrenches out of the toolbox. It was the 7/16. When I got done I put both wrenches in the pocket of my hoodie. Rolled the bike over to the center of the garage so the air hose would reach. As I was laying on the floor airing the tires both wrenches fell out of my pocket, (at least I thought both fell out) unfortunately I was also over the floor drain. The drain is about 24 inches in diameter it's a big cast metal grate, one of the wrenches was laying on top and the other? So I pull the drain cover, scooped out all the water and muck, no wrench. Search every drawer in the toolchest thinking I had mis-placed it, no wrench. Tonight I tore the bike apart pull the seat, saddlebags, emptied the tour pak, no wrench. I have searched the toolbox multiple times, every nook and cranny in the garage I cannot fathom what happened to this wrench. I would blame the dog if I could. As a pup she was always running off with anything she could get in her mouth. Once I was changing a tire on a trailer, I had left the lugnuts laying on the garage floor she had picked everyone up and run off with them, found them all out in the driveway. But she wasn't in the garage tonight. Good luck with your extra parts.

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midnightrun7

Discussion Starter · #4 · Sep 19, 2014

Thanks for the reply, things like this make me nuts. I think I'm going to take Scol's advise and adjust the clutch and see what happens. If it still slips, I'll replace with Barnett extra clutch kit. I must say the engine / bike ran pretty good today. thankfully your wrench isn't in your Crankcase.
Thx..

MADMACK

· #5 · Sep 19, 2014

V&H Pipe brackets? Maybe new bolts came with the pipes. Just the least disastrous thing I could think of. Good luck.

eagle1

· #6 · Sep 19, 2014

if you go to h-d & find a p/n that mstches your bolt, then do a search in your parts manual

brent1024

· #7 · Sep 20, 2014

eagle1 said:
if you go to h-d & find a p/n that mstches your bolt, then do a search in your parts manual

X2, did some work last winter & had 4 bolts left. Went back & found I missed them on install of the motor using the service manual parts list

Thunder~Struck

· #8 · Sep 20, 2014

Part #`s and diagrams. May come in handy'
Ronnie's Harley-Davidson's Harley Davidson Street Bike Parts Finder

bsshog40

· #9 · Sep 20, 2014

I have to say that luckily I've not had this problem. Before I tear down anything on my bike, I clear of a work bench and lay all parts out with associated bolts and even old gaskets til I put it back together. Hope you find out where they came from.

mcaccamise

· #10 · Sep 21, 2014

Drop a magnet down in the drain maybe it is hiding in there amongst the muck.

Falcon

· #11 · Sep 21, 2014

mcaccamise said:
Drop a magnet down in the drain maybe it is hiding in there amongst the muck.

Pulled the grate off, again, last night. Bailed out the little remaining water and felt around in the muck. Definitely not there! Emptied out my roll away box and not there either. Moved the roll away, and all other stuff laying on garage floor, not there! I'm to the point of thinking I only took one wrench out of the box, except, there's an empty spot in the rack where the 3/8's belongs! Checked all the towels and rags, nada. At my age I've gotten used to constantly hunting for my glasses or keys, now I got to add tools to that? Lemme tell ya, gettin old sucks!

webco2

· #12 · Sep 21, 2014

Did you look in your pockets ???

wachuko

· #13 · Sep 22, 2014

I hate it when this happens... Now I try to make sure there are no bolts or parts around when I start a task...even use those metal/magnetic trays to drop the bolts in so they don't walk out on me...

I remember one time when I found something left and for the life of me, could not find where it came from. Turned out to be something that fell off the friggin lift I was using!!!

In the case of the OP, I would look at the parts diagram for the area worked and look to see if you can find them that way.

rosconey

· #14 · Sep 22, 2014

contact hd and tell them you found a cheaper way to build a motor -the price of the extra parts along with labor savings would be huge-lol

Falcon

· #15 · Sep 23, 2014

webco2 said:
Did you look in your pockets ???

Uh, yeah! More than several times as a matter of fact! Only thing I didn't do was move the Rhino. Thinking I may have kicked it out of sight under a tire or whatever, I shoved the Rhino back about 10' tonight, and.....................................no wrench! I suppose someday when I'm looking for something totally unrelated it'll make an appearance. For now I'm done looking. Chalk it up as, well I really don't know what, it just can't disappear into thin air, but it sure is hell is gone! Tomorrow is going to be a nice day here in da nort wuds, I'm going ridin!

midnightrun7

Discussion Starter · #16 · Sep 23, 2014

V&H Brackets...No. I already had my problems with the bottom bracket and cracked header. I ordered New Bolts, Used Red Locktite and put a washer plus a lock washer. Also, there are a different size...these have #6 written on top of the 6 point head. 6mm x 1.75" - 2" to the full length. 2/3 of threads, but thanks for the reply.

LYNYRD SKYNYRD

· #17 · Sep 26, 2014

Remind me not to follow you when your bike is shucking parts on the highway!

SoftailBilly

· #18 · Sep 26, 2014

We had that problem a few times at work on launch pad. After quite some time of searching, guys crawling around on there knees, engineers getting worried about FOD loose in vehicle. Some one said every one empty your pockets. Well lookie there, there's that FUGGIN nut.!!! Pockets are worse than gremlins.

TmikeX

· #19 · Sep 26, 2014

Is that a problem?

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SoftailBilly

· #20 · Sep 26, 2014

TmikeX said:
Is that a problem?

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Yep, when space craft is worth BILLION tax payer dollars........:eek

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