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It seems at times the line between customs and choppers gets blurred. A custom can be built from an existing bike or from the ground up and displays the builders concept of what a bike should be. A chopper is built from an existing bike that is chopped to alter the appearence and performance is increased. In recent years there have been customs and chopper replicas built that put all the emphasis on appearance while ignoring performance and reliability. I was in CA in the mid 60s and had the opportunity to view some of the Angels choppers and talk with the owners. These bikes were built to be radically different in appearence from a stock bike and the emphasis was on bottom end torque. As far as reliability,these bikes logged thousands of miles per year and in some cases were the owner's sole means of transportation.
 

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Question ? Or did I miss something ? Just reread ... ya making a statement ? ? ?
Anyways Hi from WI ... the future Super Bowl champions !
 

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Just my perception of customs and choppers. Since the title of the section is customs and choppers I just thought I would add my thoughts.
 

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Just my perception of customs and choppers. Since the title of the section is customs and choppers I just thought I would add my thoughts.
Okay ... no problem ... I was just wondering ! ...:nod
 

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i agree customs are built from the ground up and aftermarket frame/motor. choppas are name brand thats been chopped up to make what ever you want.
 

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In the old days " chopper " meant cutting the frame or front forks or fenders to get the desired effect and ride and look ya wanted from a factory built bike . It was mostly cutting the fenders early on and stripping excess weight from the bike . NOW " choppers " has a whole new meaning . IMO
 

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I think I started a thread similar awhile ago. Yeah , a chopper to me means ya seriously alter a stock frames geometry. A 'bobber' means ya left the frame basically stock , but 'bobbed' all the unecessary parts and sheet metal off to save weight.

I think the word 'custom' is too broadly used too. I mean , they ain't really 'custom' parts if they're a production item , bought from a catalog , and used as purchased.
 

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I think you and I agree on the definitions so lets give people some examples:


This was my 96 Sporty... Bobber




And this is my 73 (and lots of other years) Ironhead... Chopper



-Scott
 

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In the old days " chopper " meant cutting the frame or front forks or fenders to get the desired effect and ride and look ya wanted from a factory built bike . It was mostly cutting the fenders early on and stripping excess weight from the bike .

NOW " choppers " has a whole new meaning . IMO
No , the terms have merely been hijacked by a new generation.

Just like GAY used to mean happy or lighthearted.

Choppers need one basic ingrediant. A stock factory frame , cut , bent , stretched , raked , welded or otherwise permanantly modificated.



Custom is overused too. Custom meant unique , an individual part or assembly , made by or to the owners individual specifications. One of a kind.

They ain't 'custom parts' if ya bought it from a catalog and theres many more just like it.

Bobber , an otherwise stock chassis with anything not needed for speed , like fenders removed , cut off or 'bobbed'.

Bobber!
 

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If it's "factory" is it really a "Bobber"? Or would you have to do some bobbing on it?
 
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