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I would like too see what kind of #'s the big twin guys are getting. On the other forum we have a section for that and for time slips at the track.:cool:
 

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107 rwhp/103 rwtq with crappy V&H sideshot exhaust, couldnt get the A/F ratio to settle down (carbed model). Have since changed to Thunderheader exhaust, but havent made it to a dyno to get it dialed in.
 

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95HP/105Tq with mild SE BB 95" build; dyno problems before tuning complete; lean at 4000, maybe a little HP left? Shall see soon.
 

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2005 Softail Deluxe 120" Jim's Screamin' Eagle - Built, D&D Exhaust

143hp / 158 torque
:eek: Do the Jims motors still use the counterbalancers as in the TC88B motors? If so, are you stuck with a 6200 RPM redline as well? Just trying to figure out if theres a way to beef up the counterbalancers in the B motors to allow me to bump up my redline to 7k RPM.
 

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Those #'s you guys posted are awesome!! I would like to ride one with that much torque!:eek:
 

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2005 Softail Deluxe 120" Jim's Screamin' Eagle - Built, D&D Exhaust

143hp / 158 torque
C'mon Jeff, just to be fair to us guys with peanut motors, post you real cubic inches so those reading will understand the differences in motors and I will look like a "KING". LOL
 

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Jeff- Did you have head work etc. to that motor?
 

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05 FLSTFI 103 Street Legal Stroker Kit, Race Tuner, 16 Gage SE Exhaust


HP 84.4 @ 4300 RPM

Torque 92.98 @ 5250 RPM
 

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05 FLSTFI 103 Street Legal Stroker Kit, Race Tuner, 16 Gage SE Exhaust


HP 84.4 @ 4300 RPM

Torque 92.98 @ 5250 RPM
Something strange with those numbers....

HP = Torque * RPM/5250

From this formula, we can inferr 3 things:

1) At < 5250 RPM, Torque is always > HP
2) At > 5250 RPM, HP is always > Torque
3) HP always = Torque at 5250 RPM

So at those numbers you gave for torque:
HP (at 5250 RPM) = 92.98 * 5250/5250 = 92.98 HP


Maybe you got the HP and Torque numbers reversed?

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question622.htm
 

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The numbers I posted are directly from the dyno sheet. I could be off a hundred RPM or so since I had to read that from the graph but the peak HP and TQ are listed and labeled on the form. For what it's worth, the numbers are virtually the same as what HD shows for the 103 kit.
 

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How to beef up the TC 96

I just bought a Road Glide with a Twin Cam 96 motor. I like the bike for cruising on the highway, but I am used to my V-Rod and was wondering what is the best way to get some more umph out of this thing. I have done nothing so far, it came with some SE slip on mufflers, that sound okay, I guess that is about all they can offer now that they have to comply to all the regulations. I know that I can go with the stage 1 and put a K&N filter, exhaust and a fuel management system. Any idea how much increase in HP this will give me? Is it worth the money or do I need to spend 2 or 3 grand and do a big bore kit.
 

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I just bought a Road Glide with a Twin Cam 96 motor. I like the bike for cruising on the highway, but I am used to my V-Rod and was wondering what is the best way to get some more umph out of this thing. I have done nothing so far, it came with some SE slip on mufflers, that sound okay, I guess that is about all they can offer now that they have to comply to all the regulations. I know that I can go with the stage 1 and put a K&N filter, exhaust and a fuel management system. Any idea how much increase in HP this will give me? Is it worth the money or do I need to spend 2 or 3 grand and do a big bore kit.
Without trying to sound harsh...dude, it's a Road Glide.

It's a whole lotta good looking bike, not designed to be extremely fast or have get up & go. Take a look at MCNews's performance 06 charts:
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/technical/JAN06Pindx1.pdf
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/technical/JAN06Pindx2.pdf
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/technical/JAN06Pindx3.pdf
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/technical/JAN06Pindx4.pdf

They tested a 1999 (I'm assuming with the TC88) and it's near the bottom of the first link. The important parts (to me) show:
62.7 -> torque
73.5 -> horse power
777 -> wet weight
13.88 -> quarter mile time (with experienced/professional racer, btw)

Granted, the 96CI upgrade and other items will beef it up some, but...it's never going to get anywhere _near_ the performance of your Rod.
Which they list a 2001 bone stock model as:
103.2, 72, 619, and 11.38, respectively. (VRSC V-Rod). Even if you were to knock 150 pounds off the Road Glide...it's still behind ~40 pounds of torque (stock vs. stock).

Anyways, this wasn't mean to say that the links above are THE definitive guide for every bike they list...but it's as good a place to start as any other.

I just don't think (if she's breathing good and has been rejetted and has the 96") she'll ever have enough...if you're used to riding the V-Rod.
 

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Without trying to sound harsh...dude, it's a Road Glide.

It's a whole lotta good looking bike, not designed to be extremely fast or have get up & go. Take a look at MCNews's performance 06 charts:
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/technical/JAN06Pindx1.pdf
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/technical/JAN06Pindx2.pdf
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/technical/JAN06Pindx3.pdf
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/technical/JAN06Pindx4.pdf

They tested a 1999 (I'm assuming with the TC88) and it's near the bottom of the first link. The important parts (to me) show:
62.7 -> torque
73.5 -> horse power
777 -> wet weight
13.88 -> quarter mile time (with experienced/professional racer, btw)

Granted, the 96CI upgrade and other items will beef it up some, but...it's never going to get anywhere _near_ the performance of your Rod.
Which they list a 2001 bone stock model as:
103.2, 72, 619, and 11.38, respectively. (VRSC V-Rod). Even if you were to knock 150 pounds off the Road Glide...it's still behind ~40 pounds of torque (stock vs. stock).

Anyways, this wasn't mean to say that the links above are THE definitive guide for every bike they list...but it's as good a place to start as any other.

I just don't think (if she's breathing good and has been rejetted and has the 96") she'll ever have enough...if you're used to riding the V-Rod.
Thanks, I am aware that it will never be as fast as the V-Rod, I guess I came across a little stupid in my question. I really was just trying to get some conversation going on this board, not much going here. I ask a stupid question, which I already know the answer to and I get insulted. Thanks for the links.

I did add the K&N, PC III USB had a professional dyno done and it does run stronger now, it was bought to be a highway cruiser not a drag racer, and it does it okay now. I probably should have bought a BMW or a Honda and I would have never had to spend an extra grand to make it run correctly.
 

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Thanks, I am aware that it will never be as fast as the V-Rod, I guess I came across a little stupid in my question. I really was just trying to get some conversation going on this board, not much going here. I ask a stupid question, which I already know the answer to and I get insulted. Thanks for the links.

I did add the K&N, PC III USB had a professional dyno done and it does run stronger now, it was bought to be a highway cruiser not a drag racer, and it does it okay now. I probably should have bought a BMW or a Honda and I would have never had to spend an extra grand to make it run correctly.
2007 103 ci, ported 103+ heads, 103+ pistons, TW-7H cams, 1.7:1 roller rockers, 57mm T/B, 57 lb injectors, SERT, modified V&H Pro Pipe, nitrous...170+ HP / 190+ TQ


Dyno Graph 1

Dyno Graph 2

Video Links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yudkb6aluc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRUAvnEAeiI

 
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