Next up: Try to fix the cruise control

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mcnphotog

Discussion Starter · Oct 30, 2014

I never had cruise control before so didn't really miss not having it but a few times this summer I thought it might have been convenient.
I don't know if it worked on the bike when I got it, never tried it, but at least since I replaced the grips, throttle specifically, last winter I know that the Resume/Set switch fails to engage or even illuminate the light.
So far I've disassembled the Right handlebar assembly and nothing readily obvious jumped out at me as disconnected, crimped or broken. I've since printed the section of my manual pertaining to trouble shooting and will start looking into it further this weekend/winter.
From what I can see about the fuses the brakes and cruise share the same fuse so without looking right away I'm guessing it should be good since I have brake (lights)?

BTW, the on/off switch and light appear to work fine.

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webco2

· #2 · Oct 30, 2014

mcnphotog said:
I never had cruise control before so didn't really miss not having it but a few times this summer I thought it might have been convenient.
I don't know if it worked on the bike when I got it, never tried it, but at least since I replaced the grips, throttle specifically, last winter I know that the Resume/Set switch fails to engage or even illuminate the light.
So far I've disassembled the Right handlebar assembly and nothing readily obvious jumped out at me as disconnected, crimped or broken. I've since printed the section of my manual pertaining to trouble shooting and will start looking into it further this weekend/winter.
From what I can see about the fuses the brakes and cruise share the same fuse so without looking right away I'm guessing it should be good since I have brake (lights)?

BTW, the on/off switch and light appear to work fine.

Two biggest things to go wrong are :
1) Brake light switch is stuck on. Look to see if light is on.
2) "roll off switch" is bad or stuck/corroded . On right side of tank, in the front next to neck, two wires on the roll off cable, unplug them both . Then see if cruse control will go on . ( set at speed)

:biker:

mcnphotog

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 30, 2014

Thanks, The brake light is ok. I'll check the roll off switch as you mentioned tonight.
Are they visible in this pic anywhere?

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webco2

· #4 · Oct 30, 2014

On the right side of the tank , next to the neck. Both cables are together , wires on the "roll off " one .

With you bike parked as it is, you should be able to see the cables with the wires , at the top of the neck , just inside of tank lip .

mcnphotog

Discussion Starter · #5 · Oct 30, 2014

2

OK, I think I know where to look, here is a diagram from the manual

I'm guessing that would be around here?

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mcnphotog

Discussion Starter · #6 · Oct 30, 2014

webco2 said:
On the right side of the tank , next to the neck. Both cables are together , wires on the "roll off " one .

With you bike parked as it is, you should be able to see the cables with the wires , at the top of the neck , just inside of tank lip .

So more like over here then:

Also, when testing, the bike has to be moving correct (in that its not a case where the light can come on if stopped)?

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webco2

· #7 · Oct 30, 2014

mcnphotog said:
OK, I think I know where to look, here is a diagram from the manual

I'm guessing that would be around here?

You found it......GREAT.. you are easy to teach . :thumbsup :thumbsup

webco2

· #8 · Oct 30, 2014

mcnphotog said:
So more like over here then:

Your roadking has the wires run a little differently than my ultra .

kd5cqt

· #9 · Oct 30, 2014

Had a problem with cruise on my old '04. Apparently when they changed grips to the ones I had ordered, a wire got pinched and cruise was good today, non-existent the next few days, then back etc. Found the pinched wire under the switch cover and no more problems.

mcnphotog

Discussion Starter · #10 · Oct 30, 2014

webco2 said:
You found it......GREAT.. you are easy to teach . :thumbsup :thumbsup

OK, scratch plan B. Same question though about light.
Thanks

webco2

· #11 · Oct 30, 2014

To set the cruse control, you will have to be doing over 30 mph.

mcnphotog

Discussion Starter · #12 · Oct 30, 2014

I found this online earlier and decided to do a quick test when I got home before disconnecting the roll off and riding. At best I thought it would at least confirm if the Set/Resume switch and lamp was operational.

To invoke the readout:

Engine OFF, cruise switch OFF

Push cruise set/resume switch to SET and HOLD it there while switching to IGNITION (do NOT start engine)

RELEASE the set/resume switch and watch the cruise enabled lamp....it will flash out 3 digits encoded as a series of pulses in the following pattern >>> the first digit is string of 1/4 second flashes, then a one second pause; then the second digit is string of 1/4 second flashes, then a one second pause; then the third digit is string of 1/4 second flashes and it stops.....write down the number of flashes in each of the three segments and you will get a three digit code

if you want to verify the flashes you just saw, then push the switch to RESUME and it will repeat the three digit code that you just read.....

to get the next three digit code that is stored, push the switch to SET and three more digits will be pulsed out in the same format as above.....continue advancing the codes by toggling to the SET (or verify them using RESUME)

there are 8 codes stored and once the buffer is empty, the cruise engaged lamp stays on solid.........if you want to repeat all 8 again, then toggle the switch to SET

to exit the readout mode switch the ignition to OFF

You now have 8 three-digit codes written on your arm....their meaning is:

111 No Codes, memory clear
112 Throttle roll off
113 Cruise switch turned off
122 frt or rear brake applied
211 Coast interval longer than 6 seconds (S/C button)
212 speed dropped below 30 mph while s/c button held
213 speed below 26 mph or above 90 mph
221 speed drops more than 15 mph below speed set point
222 speed decrease exceeds 20 mph per second
223 vehicle speed sensor input
231 rpm exceeds 5000
232 tach signal lost
242 high rate of engine rpm change (e.g., hit ice or slipping tire)
341 low voltage
internal failure if code 311, 312, 313, 321, 323, 331, 332, 333, 342, 343, 351, 352, 353, 361, 362, 363, 371, 423, 432, 777

I received the following codes:

122
112
211
112
113
113
211
313 (at least I believe it is interpreted as 313 since the 3rd pulse remained on).
I see that the throttle roll off is listed twice. Why the brake code registered I'm not sure. I located the roll off switch easy enough and will disconnect it and go for a ride in a bit. They just pull out I presume, the leads?

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webco2

· #13 · Oct 30, 2014

mcnphotog said:
I found this online earlier and decided to do a quick test when I got home before disconnecting the roll off and riding. At best I thought it would at least confirm if the Set/Resume switch and lamp was operational.

I received the following codes:

122
112
211
112
113
113
211
313 (at least I believe it is interpreted as 313 since the 3rd pulse remained on).
I see that the throttle roll off is listed twice. Why the brake code registered I'm not sure. I located the roll off switch easy enough and will disconnect it and go for a ride in a bit. They just pull out I presume, the leads?

If you need to read codes, go to the electrical section and there is a sticky with a tread all about them and what they mean.

Yes, unplug both leads.

fatcat

· #14 · Oct 30, 2014

I went though all of this with my 2006 ultra classic about 4 months ago. Checked the brake switches, throttle roll off, fuses, loose connecters, pinched wires, turned out the handle bar switch went bad. $62 for the switch at the dealership.

webco2

· #15 · Oct 30, 2014

fatcat said:
I went though all of this with my 2006 ultra classic about 4 months ago. Checked the brake switches, throttle roll off, fuses, loose connecters, pinched wires, turned out the handle bar switch went bad. $62 for the switch at the dealership.

And it's a real pain to put the new switch in ain't it tho .

fatcat

· #16 · Oct 30, 2014

webco2 said:
And it's a real pain to put the new switch in ain't it tho .

More then you would believe. CVO, wires go though the handlebars.

webco2

· #17 · Oct 30, 2014

fatcat said:
More then you would believe. CVO, wires go though the handlebars.

OHHHHHHHHHHH , you ran the wires and did not just cut and splice . :eek

fatcat

· #18 · Oct 30, 2014

webco2 said:
OHHHHHHHHHHH , you ran the wires and did not just cut and splice . :eek

Had almost 7 hours invested to do it.

webco2

· #19 · Oct 30, 2014

fatcat said:
Had almost 7 hours invested to do it.

You're a better man than I. I cut and splice .

fatcat

· #20 · Oct 30, 2014

webco2 said:
You're a better man than I. I cut and splice .

If I would have known, it would have been cut and splice.

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