Harley Davidson Forums banner

1 - 20 of 138 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
20,820 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Russian woman linked to gun-rights groups is charged with acting as Russian agent in US | Fox News



A Russian woman accused of conspiring to infiltrate American political organizations — including the National Rifle Association — at the direction of an unnamed senior Kremlin official has been arrested, federal authorities announced Monday.

Maria Butina, 29, who accompanied Republican activist Paul Erickson to President Trump’s inauguration, was arrested Sunday on a charge of conspiracy to act as an unregistered agent of the Russian government, according to court papers unsealed in Washington.

She made her initial court appearance Monday afternoon, and was ordered held pending a hearing set for Wednesday.

Butina, a former Siberian furniture owner, is also a board member and founder of the Russian gun rights group, “The Right to Bear Arms,” The Washington Post reported. Her earlier work reportedly included assisting Russian central banker and politician Alexander Torshin, who is a lifetime member of the NRA.

“Maria Butina is not an agent of the Russian Federation,” her attorney Robert Driscoll said in a statement Monday afternoon. “She is a Russian national in the United States on a student visa who recently graduated from American University in Washington, D.C.”

Driscoll said she “has been cooperating with various government entities for months regarding public allegations related to her contacts with various American and Russian individuals,” testified for eight hours before the Senate Intelligence Committee months ago and provided “thousands of documents.”

FBI Special Agent Kevin Helson wrote that the goal was to “exploit personal connections with U.S. persons having influence in American politics in an effort to advance the interests of the Russian Federation.”

Helson added, “I believe that Butina and the Russian official took these steps in order to infiltrate those groups and advance the interests of the Russian Federation.”

According to court papers, Butina met with U.S. politicians and candidates, attended events sponsored by special interest groups — including two National Prayer Breakfast events — and organized Russian-American “friendship and dialogue” dinners in Washington with the goal of “reporting back to Moscow” what she had learned.

“According to the affidavit in support of the complaint, from as early as 2015 and continuing through at least February 2017, Butina worked at the direction of a high-level official in the Russian government who was previously a member of the legislature of the Russian Federation and later became a top official at the Russian Central Bank. This Russian official was sanctioned by the U.S. Department of the Treasury, Office of Foreign Assets Control in April 2018,” the Justice Department said in a statement.

The affidavit also stated she started reaching out to NRA members and other American gun enthusiasts in 2013, on several occasions hosting NRA executives and gun activists in Moscow, including one delegation that included former Sheriff David Clarke of Milwaukee County, Wisconsin.

She and Torshin also attended a series of NRA events in the United States starting in 2014.

Prosecutors said the Russian official since has been sanctioned by the U.S.

The DOJ added, “The court filings detail the Russian official’s and Butina’s efforts for Butina to act as an agent of Russia inside the United States by developing relationships with U.S. persons and infiltrating organizations having influence in American politics, for the purpose of advancing the interests of the Russian Federation. The filings also describe certain actions taken by Butina to further this effort during multiple visits from Russia and, later, when she entered and resided in the United States on a student visa. The filings allege that she undertook her activities without officially disclosing the fact that she was acting as an agent of Russian government, as required by law.”
 

·
Mississippi Cajun
Joined
·
24,064 Posts
I'd let her shoot my gun anytime.
I'm at a point where I have no faith in any of these "complaints" and accusations. So many BS statements proven to be propaganda from our local buddies that it ain't worth giving much attention to them.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
19,464 Posts
So, she's pro-gun, so she must be a "russian agent"... Damn, this shit has gone WAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY off the deep-end... So, now it's a crime just to be a Russian in America? This shit has gone too far. Harassing a young woman for being pro-gun, just because she HAPPENS to be from Russia?

I hope she wins that defamation lawsuit.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
20,820 Posts
Discussion Starter #5
So, she's pro-gun, so she must be a "russian agent"... Damn, this shit has gone WAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY off the deep-end... So, now it's a crime just to be a Russian in America? This shit has gone too far. Harassing a young woman for being pro-gun, just because she HAPPENS to be from Russia?

I hope she wins that defamation lawsuit.
I'm not so sure she is pro gun ,she is here on a student visa, she has no 2nd amendment rights, just because she formed a gun rights group in Russia doesn't mean she is pro guns for Americans. Think of the up coming election , if the NRA is giving Russians lifetime memberships means the NRA is taking money from Russians , then the Dems can say anyone who the NRA endorses is tainted by influence from foreign nationals.

The Dems may have put her up to it, to discredit the NRA and it's membership, it won't be the first time they have used the Russians to interfere in an election, but it would be the first time a civil rights group was weaponized to use against Americans by a foreign power to tip the scales in favor of the other party. Quite twisted really, use the NRA to make NRA members look like traitors to their own country. If your name is on the membership list , you must be a Russian sympathizer.

I can here it now.......the NRA must be disbanded, they are in league with the enemy and working for the Russians, and they endorsed Donald Trump , we must impeach , we must impeach him :blahblah
 

·
Mississippi Cajun
Joined
·
24,064 Posts
Laura needed to explain things after Sheppard Smith, The token leftie from Ole Miss's Gay community, had a seizure yesterday during his show as he went nutso on Trump for the entire program. Since NO ONE actually knows what was said behind closed doors, one has to wonder if Trump's post conference remarks were deliberately misleading as he sometimes does before he makes fools out of his media buddies.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,622 Posts
Laura needed to explain things after Sheppard Smith, The token leftie from Ole Miss's Gay community, had a seizure yesterday during his show as he went nutso on Trump for the entire program. Since NO ONE actually knows what was said behind closed doors, one has to wonder if Trump's post conference remarks were deliberately misleading as he sometimes does before he makes fools out of his media buddies.
Wouldn’t it be great for Congress to subpoena the translator for testimony as to what was really discussed in the one on one with Putin?
 

·
Curmudgeon
Joined
·
7,037 Posts
Old saying I tried to drill into my son at an early age. "Stay close to your friends and closer to your enemies"
 

·
STAND AND FIGHT!
Joined
·
12,831 Posts
Rush was predicting the "Russians are meddling" shriek will peak when they lose in the midterms, because of meddling and collusion and further predicting their goal is invalidating the electoral process, … unless they somehow win.

...
 

·
Mississippi Cajun
Joined
·
24,064 Posts
Rush was predicting the "Russians are meddling" shriek will peak when they lose in the midterms, because of meddling and collusion and further predicting their goal is invalidating the electoral process, … unless they somehow win.

...
Heard a replay of Rush predicting the goal was ending the electoral process which effectively would mean the US of A would be the USS of A with a dictator such as WBW for life at the helm. I cannot understand how we have gone this long into Trump's term and the morons are still screaming about this Russian BS when it happened under ODumbass' presidency, and he obviously either ignored his intelligence people or aided and abetted it himself. Maybe that is that infamously promised "flexibility" that dumbo-eared SOB promised Putin when he didn't know he was talking into an open mike.
 

·
Former Lurker
Joined
·
2,763 Posts
Wasn't sure where to post this...

Saw this on fox and wondered about Russia selling uranium to Iran.
Anyone know if this is legit??


Hillary gives Russia 20% of US uranium.
Russia "donates" $145 million to the Clinton "Foundation."
Russia pays Billy $500,000, to speak.

Obama gives Iran $150 billion.
Iran now has cash, to shop for uranium.
Russia sells uranium to Iran.

...and they want to investigate Trump, on Russia ties?
 
1 - 20 of 138 Posts
Top