Well I finally made the decision that I wanted to get the Ultra Limited. I really liked the 2007 softail but I really wanted to enjoy the motorcycle with my wife and daughter and the softail just didn't cut it for that purpose. After doing some intensive test riding I found the Ultra Limited to be one fantastic bike and my family loves it. Am going back to the dealer to have air put in the shock and show me how to get the headset working. I installed it in my helmet, hooked it up to the bike, switched the menu from speaker to headset but couldn't get any sound thru the headphones. The bike drives like a dream. I will get some pics up today. I bought the vivid black but my idea is to do some custom paint to surpass the CVO paint which is nice and also to update motor, intake and exhaust over winter. I really at this point like the power of the bike. It is very quiet compared to my softail but it really doesn't matter. It is a beautiful bike.