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While under warranty, did you run stock?

  • Yes, no mods.

    Votes: 7 13.0%
  • Sorta, just some pipes.

    Votes: 19 35.2%
  • Forget the warranty, I got intake/exhaust/tune/etc.

    Votes: 28 51.9%

  • Total voters
    54
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Unnecessary, if you're worrying about voiding. My dealer did a ton of mods at my request before delivery. As long as you're not damaging the bike, mod away.
 

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Unnecessary, if you're worrying about voiding. My dealer did a ton of mods at my request before delivery. As long as you're not damaging the bike, mod away.
Well, that's the problem, right? If something goes wrong they may say the mods damaged it. All the good stuff has "race" or "off road" disclaimers, and even if that is not enough to kill your Magnuson Moss rights, then you could still face a legal battle. It is one thing to say, you can't do this to me, haven't you heard of Magnuson Moss? It is quite another to get them to actually comply.

Frankly I'm not even sure they would be in the wrong to deny warranty engine work if you changed the ECM. I think if I was building bikes I'd probably feel the same...
 

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You're stressing to much Dude. My dealer did mods also including decatting the header. Pause, grab a beer and the closest P & A catalog, start ordering, install when parts arrive, ride bike, enjoy, have another beer and post pics.
 

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You're stressing to much Dude. My dealer did mods also including decatting the header. Pause, grab a beer and the closest P & A catalog, start ordering, install when parts arrive, ride bike, enjoy, have another beer and post pics.
Lol, ok. I'd still like to see the poll results just for the heckuvit.
 

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I added V&H slips and the dealer did the Screamin Eagle filter and efi tune. My thinking is anything done by the dealer puts them in a position of hwvinf to back the warranty. I'm hoping I don't have to test that theory.
 

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Well, that's the problem, right?

No, it's not the problem. It's a fiction scenario that you've written and evidently believe. The dealers I know and the MoCo in general are consistently cool about mods. They make a lot of money doing it and want it to continue.

If you start drilling holes in your headpipes and laying a deuce in your air cleaner, they would likely frown on that. But, if you buy reputable parts and install them properly, there isn't a problem.
 

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I have full exhaust system hi flow intake race tuner all still under warranty... and I've done a tone other mods as well... I have had warranty claims and they took care of them no questions asked
 

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No, it's not the problem. It's a fiction scenario that you've written and evidently believe. The dealers I know and the MoCo in general are consistently cool about mods. They make a lot of money doing it and want it to continue.

If you start drilling holes in your headpipes and laying a deuce in your air cleaner, they would likely frown on that. But, if you buy reputable parts and install them properly, there isn't a problem.
Quoted for truth.
 

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When mine was new I only added pipes to get a better sound as far as the engine is concerned. Everything else was pretty much just eye candy. But mostly I liked it the way it came from the factory, and still do. That's really the only reason I didn't do more to it.
 

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Just a thought from a stupid engineer...legals notwithstanding;
If you are that concerned with warranty on a new purchase, why are you considering that purchase? Either it is a good product or it is not. Having owned 4 of these critters in my lifetime in the past 22 years, and having had only one warranty issue that was caught by the service manager and handled on the spot....well it took 2 days to get the work done on that shifter shaft issue...I can't figure why you're that concerned. I have added pipes and all sorts of crap to my bikes over the years and never encountered an issue of warranty no-no. Come to think of it, never had any major issues with any of my bikes that weren't related to tons of miles and my saddle sore ass
 

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No, it's not the problem. It's a fiction scenario that you've written and evidently believe. The dealers I know and the MoCo in general are consistently cool about mods. They make a lot of money doing it and want it to continue.

If you start drilling holes in your headpipes and laying a deuce in your air cleaner, they would likely frown on that. But, if you buy reputable parts and install them properly, there isn't a problem.
I second that. No one I know has ever had a dealer void a warranty over normal modifications. I've always heard they can't just say the mod caused the problem to get out of paying for the repairs, but they actually have to be able to prove it. If they can't prove it, they have to honor the warranty.
 

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No, it's not the problem. It's a fiction scenario that you've written and evidently believe. The dealers I know and the MoCo in general are consistently cool about mods. They make a lot of money doing it and want it to continue.

If you start drilling holes in your headpipes and laying a deuce in your air cleaner, they would likely frown on that. But, if you buy reputable parts and install them properly, there isn't a problem.
I'll assume you were not trying to insult. So please also give me the benefit of the doubt, too.

Do I understand that you believe, then, that every claim of warranty denial that we may have heard is pure fiction? I mean reasonable cases, not ones like in your second paragraph which I think we can all agree.
 

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FWIW, I asked the warranty guy at my dealership. He said that pipes were no problem at all, but if I wanted to go air cleaner and ECM tune then the tune had better be HD brand. But, you know, without something in writing, and plenty of writing to the contrary in the P&A, Limited Warranty, and Extended Service plan notwithstanding, it leaves a lot of confusion. I can't see that one opinion is better than another. It's unfortunate that HD does not take a clear stand on this. (but maybe they would say they have been quite clear).
Finding the poll interesting...

Thanks!
 

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Just a thought from a stupid engineer...legals notwithstanding;
If you are that concerned with warranty on a new purchase, why are you considering that purchase? Either it is a good product or it is not. Having owned 4 of these critters in my lifetime in the past 22 years, and having had only one warranty issue that was caught by the service manager and handled on the spot....well it took 2 days to get the work done on that shifter shaft issue...I can't figure why you're that concerned. I have added pipes and all sorts of crap to my bikes over the years and never encountered an issue of warranty no-no. Come to think of it, never had any major issues with any of my bikes that weren't related to tons of miles and my saddle sore ass
I think most of us value a warranty on major purchases and we would rather not void them???
 

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I second that. No one I know has ever had a dealer void a warranty over normal modifications. I've always heard they can't just say the mod caused the problem to get out of paying for the repairs, but they actually have to be able to prove it. If they can't prove it, they have to honor the warranty.
I mentioned this in a previous post. It's the Magnuson Moss act. But what if they don't prove it (or prove it only in their own opinion) and still don't honor the warranty? Then you got a legal battle on your hands. Just sayin'.
 

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They have to prove it was the parts you added that caused any issue, just as you would have to prove that it wasn't.
 

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I think you should look for another dealer.

I had my motor totally removed, cases split, stroker crank installed, big bore cylinders and pistons installed etc etc etc all under warranty.


Your poll doesn't cover my scenario.
 

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I'll assume you were not trying to insult. So please also give me the benefit of the doubt, too.



Do I understand that you believe, then, that every claim of warranty denial that we may have heard is pure fiction? I mean reasonable cases, not ones like in your second paragraph which I think we can all agree.

No insult. I was trying to make you giggle. I've heard of dealers steering customers toward HD parts by threatening warranty problems, but I haven't heard of the MoCo actually denying a legit claim.
 

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One thing for certain, if Harley does the mods there is no threat to the warranty. They even offer two year warranty on add on done by the dealer. It's all in you new bike packet you should have received.

I just bought my Heritage new and even got a phone call from Harley offering the two year warranty for any add on done within 60 days of purchase.
 
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